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Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD Tai... - 12/31/2007 2:09:29 AM   
racin06


 

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Joined: 12/2/2006
From: Westfield, IN, USA
Status: offline 		I finally had the opportunity to get outside and fly today! This is my new modified HBFP with the following setup:

- Slo-Max 300 Main Motor w/10T Pinion and Heatsink
- GWS DD Tail Motor (CN12-RXC) - No Heatsink
- GWS Tail Rotor Housing and Vertical Fin
- GWS 4530 Tail Rotor Prop
- Super Skids
- Spektrum AR6100 Rx
- E-flite 3-in-1
- Esky 0704A HH Gyro
- Kyosho M24 Blades
- Commonsense RC 2S 800mAh 10C Lipo
- Esky Honey Bee King II Canopy
- Spektrum DX7 Tx

I put this bird together last night and conducted a couple of shakedown/hover flights in the basement about 1:00am this morning (I know...I'm really addicted ). My wife offered to video this flight, which I appreciated very much.

The weather conditions were not the greatest...cold, overcast, 31 F, with winds from my 2 o'clock position at up to 10 mph. My bare hands were absolutely freezing after this short 5 1/2 min. flight.

I hadn't flown outside since November 10. The only other flight since then was in a gymnasium a couple of weeks ago. I have been spending my regular time on Phoenix RC sim to stay somewhat sharp; however, I did feel I was just a little rusty and I did have a couple of near-misses during those those fast diving, high-banked downwind turns. Those will certainly keep you on the sticks! Overall, I was very satisified with how I flew today.

Embedded - http://blip.tv/file/569898

Direct Launch or Right-Click to Download - http://blip.tv/file/get/Racin06-ModifiedEskyHoneyBeeFP2463.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WJ-mO2IXNY


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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD... - 12/31/2007 4:44:58 AM   
Cazenave26


 

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Joined: 12/30/2007
From: Cordova, TN, USA
Status: offline 		Nice video.

I just purchased an FP Honey Bee and can't wait to get started. I haven't ordered Lipo replacements yet as I wasn't sure if 800 or 1200 mAh was the way to go. I've seen both offered for the HB. Did you have to modify the battery cage and adjust the CG after going to Lipo batteries? Also, is the Slow-Max a brushless motor?

Thanks

(Will be spending some time learning how to hover first in the garage, but it will be nice to get it outside eventually.)

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 12/31/2007 7:35:04 AM   
srouthouse


 

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Joined: 11/5/2007
From: auburn, CA, USA
Status: offline 		man thats good flying without the wind!

ive been following the threads over at rcgroups keep up the good work

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD... - 3/3/2008 11:38:16 PM   
kodak_jack


 

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Joined: 1/8/2008
From: Hilton, NY, USA
Status: offline 		How did you know those parts would fit the Honey Bee FP? I went to the GWS web site and couldn't get anything useful out of it! You changed the tail rotor housing. How did you get the housing off the boom? Isn't it glued on? Why did you switch from a 4-in1 to a 3-in-1?

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/4/2008 11:14:36 AM   
raindelay_wa


 

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From: bremerton, WA, USA
Status: offline 		Awesome video. I really thought you were going to bite it that one time around, when it took that sudden dip toward the ground...lol. Flying like that is so far off in the future for me, I can't even think about it.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD... - 3/4/2008 10:47:41 PM   
racin06


 

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ORIGINAL: kodak_jack

How did you know those parts would fit the Honey Bee FP? I went to the GWS web site and couldn't get anything useful out of it! You changed the tail rotor housing. How did you get the housing off the boom? Isn't it glued on? Why did you switch from a 4-in1 to a 3-in-1?


I knew the parts would fit the HBFP from information in the HBFP thread over at rcgroups.com. I purchased all of the GWS tail parts and the Slo-Max 300 motor at Tower Hobbies. See the following links:

GWS CN12-RXC Motor (1)/EP3020 Prop (2): http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=&FVSEARCH=cn12-rxc
GWS EP3020 Tail Rotor Blade EDP-50/H: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHHE2&P=7
GWS Tail Rotor Housing & Vertical Fin: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHXK4&P=7
Team Orion Slo-Max Brushed 300 Motor: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=slo-max

Kyosho M24 blades were purchased here: http://www.ultimatehobbies.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=KYOCA1015!1012

The reason I use the 3-in-1 is because I installed a Spektrum AR6100 receiver that I fly with my Spektrum DX7 transmitter. The E-flite 3-in-1 does not have an internal receiver, but it does have the mixer, ESC and rate gyro (I override this with a separate E-Sky HH gyro).

Regarding removing the stock tail rotor housing...place the stock tail rotor housing in boiling water for approximately 3 min. and then twist gently to remove from the boom.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/4/2008 11:06:26 PM   
racin06


 

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ORIGINAL: raindelay_wa

Awesome video. I really thought you were going to bite it that one time around, when it took that sudden dip toward the ground...lol. Flying like that is so far off in the future for me, I can't even think about it.


Thank you. Flying like that isn't necessarily so far off in the future. You'll ge there. It just takes a little time for things to "click." I've only been flying helis for 14 months. It took me about three months to nail down hovering in all orientations, including nose-in. It took me another 4 months to nail down forward flight (figure 8s, circuits, etc.).

Recently, I just moved up to a Honey Bee King II. The HBK2 is my first CP heli. I'm having a great time with the HBK2. Though, I did crash the HBK2 on its maiden flight a few days ago. Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjRzPLEsy7k . It happens and I'm sure it won't be my last crash either. I'll just pay much more attention to the orientation of the heli when flying in those overcast sky conditions. I just got a little too comfortable in those difficult visual flying conditions and well....you see what happened.

The single most important thing that has helped me the most is many, many hours on Phoenix RC simulator. If you can afford it, I would recommend the purchase of one of these high-end simulators like Phoenix RC, Real Flight G4, Aerofly Deluxe or Reflex XTR. There is alot of debate about which of these is the best, but to be honest, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these high-end sims. Though I will say that these high-end sims are WAY better than FMS or even Clear View. There is no comparison.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/5/2008 8:59:35 AM   
denis1


 

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From: Zagreb, CROATIA (HRVATSKA)
Status: offline 		Hello,

I'm also having the HBFP, now I'm getting good in hovering, also flaying, so I'm thinking of some upgrades... Upgrading to Slo-Max 300 motor sounds as a good solution to me!

Racin06, please, was there any additional modification necessary in order to get Slo-Max installed (I'm currently using stock setup)?

thanks!

/Denis

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD... - 3/5/2008 11:30:49 AM   
kodak_jack


 

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Joined: 1/8/2008
From: Hilton, NY, USA
Status: offline 		Thanks for the info. I'm not really ready to dive into the mods yet, but Nuttcaze is chompin' at the bit to spend his money!

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/DD... - 3/5/2008 12:59:48 PM   
raindelay_wa


 

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quote:

Regarding removing the stock tail rotor housing...place the stock tail rotor housing in boiling water for approximately 3 min. and then twist gently to remove from the boom.


How did you figuire that one out?? Were you like making spagetti and trying to work on your heli at the same time? Quick, give me something to stir the spagetti with......lol.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/5/2008 1:48:07 PM   
racin06


 

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From: Westfield, IN, USA
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quote:

ORIGINAL: denis1

Hello,

I'm also having the HBFP, now I'm getting good in hovering, also flaying, so I'm thinking of some upgrades... Upgrading to Slo-Max 300 motor sounds as a good solution to me!

Racin06, please, was there any additional modification necessary in order to get Slo-Max installed (I'm currently using stock setup)?

thanks!

/Denis


Hello Denis,

The Slo-Max 300 is a direct drop into the HBFP frame. No modifications are needed.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/5/2008 9:39:36 PM   
jl449


 

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Joined: 1/8/2008
From: Salinas, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Racin06,
I'm ready to order some parts for my HBFP.. following your list...
1. you listed 4530 for the tail prop. Is the EP3020 the same? 4530 is 114x76 mm (correct?)
2. Slo-max -- its the avoinics one right?... Tower hobby is out of stock. found one from another website but they list 2 one std and the other avionics.
3. Pinion gear for the slomax.. Does it come with it or do I have to order it. P/N?

My tail motor went out the other day and just spent 13.00 on an esky tail motor at the LHS -- couldn't wait for snail mail. I best order these parts now. I bet my main motor will give out as well.

James

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/5/2008 11:57:16 PM   
kodak_jack


 

Posts: 317
Joined: 1/8/2008
From: Hilton, NY, USA
Status: offline 		The parts include a tail rotor housing, new motor, new stabilizer fin and rotor blades. Anybody got experience with the ducted fan I've seen? It eliminates some of the parts. Any issues? It's only a dollar more.

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RE: Video - Modified Esky Honey Bee FP - Slo-Max 300/D... - 3/6/2008 12:24:33 AM   
racin06


 

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ORIGINAL: jl449

Racin06,
I'm ready to order some par