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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/7/2008 2:29:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let me get my ruler and wack you across your knuckles, you'll be a better little boy. Well, here are the finished lap belt and shoulder harness assemblies. Whew, now that they are done, now what Ken, what's next on your list.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/7/2008 1:46:43 PM   
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Nice job guys. I continue to watch with much interest and learn along the way. Chic, seat belts look great. Ken, tail wheel is nice.

While trying to do some internet research on my current project I ran across some L16 grasshopper information/manuals. Even though this is a completely different aircraft than what you are building, I thought you guys might enjoy the material for general information if nothing else. Particularly the L16maintenance.pdf and the L16structural.pdf. Here is the link.. http://pj260.com/Manuals/

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/8/2008 12:11:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: redtail

now what Ken, what's next on your list.


I'm gonna have to follow your lead. Those belts are nice. I'll probably wait a while on making mine, until I get to detailing the cabin, which is still several miles down the road.

I'm waiting to see what this Fliteskin is like, they're mailing me a sample to play with. If it pans out, I will at the very least use it as a skin for ailerons and flaps, and most likely sand most of the balsa down on the elevator and rudder and skin over that, as well as the rest of the stab surfaces. I will use it as a primary skin on the wings. Beyond that, I guess my next step is to start laying out the wings, it's the only structure I haven't started. I have the 'Dog fuse assembled as far as I can right now, and will display it at the Boy Scout show on Saturday on top of a sheet from the plans and some pictures of the full-scale and a few from Vailly's CD. I doubt if I'll get much done over the next week or two, but will post pics of anything that gets done.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/8/2008 11:40:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Started putting the so-called fabric between the pillars in the cockpit. I'm using something called a "Foam Sheet" that I got at "Michaels" Arts & Crafts store. The cockpit kit comes with a covering of sorts but I did not want to paint it and I found this foam sheet in multi colors. I made paper templates, cut the foam and white glued the pieces in. I needed to see some progress so I stuck the seats and instr. panel in to make me think I was getting somewhere. Here are a few shots of what I'm seeing so far. Have not connected the pilots shoulder straps to the cockpit ceiling yet. Chic

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/8/2008 11:41:39 AM   
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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/8/2008 11:44:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		By the way, the two holes missing from the instrument panel are to simulate the typical military plane of its era that did not always fly with a full set of instruments. Hope he at least has his altimeter and fuel gauges, ha, ha.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/8/2008 8:33:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like that touch, of having the missing instruments. If ever we have out two 'Dogs on the "ramp" next to each other, though, I'm gonna be sure to inventory my cockpit equipment. You know how those crew chiefs could be, always looking out for "their" plane's best interest and scrounging things they need. That interior is outstanding, the switches do look a lot like radios. What is the spring clip in the lower left?

I got a message from Roy today, said not to try building the wing upside down. I won't. I'm going to make a couple of identical , but mirror imaged jigs and set up my wings in them. I want to build both halves at one time, to keep them identical. I'm bound to change something, and want to keep it the same on both sides. A couple of definite changes will be concealed aileron and flap linkages.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/9/2008 2:28:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, don't laugh at my spring clip, it is holding the instrument panel in place until I finally glue it onto that former. I needed to see what it looked like sort of all together. Was getting a bit frustrated. It did not seem like I was getting that cockpit done quick enough. Yea, I agree with Roy for sure. I built my wings right side up also. The jigs will certainly help, especially with the washout. Have you decided to use the material from the cockpit kit to place on the side walls? If so, what color are you going to paint that material? What color will your overall interior be? Chic

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/9/2008 2:35:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		P.S. After 24 years in the military, I can smell a good crew chief coming. So be on your toes on the pad dock for that overweight, illegal (cuban) cigar smoking, in a controlled zone, master sergeant who always carries his aircraft discrepancy charts with him.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/9/2008 4:10:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		My interior will be this pea-green version of chromate yellow or chromate green, whatever. I believe this to be accurate for most planes originally. This is the inside of the NCFS BirdDog. Notice the missing instruments (but no BF spring clip)

I will use lots of the pieces of the interior kit, but not all of it. It's all still in the box, though I have played with some of the former pieces to see how they looked in place.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/16/2008 4:08:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's been a week since I posted anything, but it's been a week since I've done anything. I diverged into details again, thought I'd try to fill the two holes in the cowl under the prop. The top rectangular hole is for the oil cooler, and the one below is the carburetor air intake. I'm still pondering the oil cooler, I think it will involve lots of little strips of aluminum and some brass tubing, unless I can think of something else, or someone gives me a better (or easier) way to make it look good.

Here's the air cleaner that fits over the intake box. I enclose a schematic of the full scale induction, and a couple of full-scale shots of the filter assembly to compare. Mine is made of brass channel and 3/64 brass wire. it will get painted an aluminum color later. I cut a small piece of gray foam rubber to make a filter element.

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RE: 25% Cessna L-19/0-1 Bird Dog build - 5/17/2008 3:10:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I came up with something for the oil cooler. I think it is passable on stand-off inspection, but looks just like what it really is on close-up inspection. However, I can't think of anything else right now. I painted the air cleaner with aluminum paint, and painted the cooler with a gunmetal gray, and then "dry-brushed" some aluminum across the front. 1st pic is the schematic for the oil cooler. 2nd pic is a full scale view of the cooler and air filter, 3rd and 4th are the model. Tell me what you think I made the cooler from.

oh, and DON"T LAUGH!!!

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