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Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 3:56:32 AM   
rlenty


 

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Status: offline 		Hi everyone. I am thinking about building an Elder from Top Flite, but i have a doubt that i would like to solve. Machine guns? What am i supposed to use? and the pilot.? TOP FLITE recommends william brother's product, but in towerhobbies are not available. Where can i find this products? Do you guys have a better option? help me please.
Thank you.
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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 12:28:22 PM   
Dr1Driver



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Status: offline 		BUSA makes a nice Spandau gun, but I don't know if they hav the right scale for the Elder. Check Arizona Model Aircrafters, too. You should be able to find WB products still available. I believe the line was purchased by someone who has started production again. I think the website is operating, too. Do a Google.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 12:36:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey,

I'm starting on the Elder to! I think within a month or so. Can you make this a nice build threat please??
It is my first kit build and I'd love to be able to fall back on build threat.

I'm planning on using a Saito .56 for power, wich servo's are you gonna use?

Have much fun building!
Phil

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 12:44:04 PM   
rlenty


 

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Status: offline 		Hello Thibor: I am using futaba's 3004. The plane according to Top Flite doesn't need high torque. 44 oz. of torque will be enough. Remember that wire wheels are a good choice.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 1:10:52 PM   
thibor


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks rlenty for the info on the servo's, I'm gonna buy them this weekend. The whire wheels look indeed like a good choice.

I have been looking for a bisson pitts style muffler for the saito 56. Slimline offers these exhausts for 4-stroke engines but only from a 1.00 and up. Anyone know a source where I could find this for the .56?

Thanks,
Phil

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/2/2008 5:39:34 PM   
Don41



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Status: offline 		The Williams Bros accessories are sold by Sig Manufacturing. I bought the Parabellum machine gun (1/6 scale) WBR16300. It comes with an ammo belt. I chose the 1/6 scale pilot WBR17600. Keep in mind you'll need plastic glue and a selection of paint (I ordered Testors enamel from Tower Hobbies).

Just looking at the dimensions I was a little leery of the TopFlite wire wheel's 4" diameter however when placed on the fuselage they look fine. They are a little heavy but I doubt they'll be too heavy.

I'm mounting my Saito 56 with stock muffler.

I used the recommended Monokote color but it has been a little uncooperative while trying to place it on the wingtip. It has been a humbling experience (:-). If you go with the standard color scheme I found the Monokote self adhesive trim colors work well on the rudder.

I varied from the recommended construction in a few places but even though I meant to take pictures I always seemed to forget so I can't post picts. Sorry.

I would recommend using wet 1/16th sheets of skin on the nose. Two layers laminated with wood glue worked well and were easier to shape to the compound curves.

Don't add the gussets to the top rear fuselage where the stab is attached otherwise you will have to relieve the stab in order to fit flush to the fuselage.

As suggested by someone else, mount the engine so you have room to add soft balsa to the tip of the nose. This will allow you to create a rounded look. Not too rounded though or you may have trouble adding the chrome Monokote trim.

More than you asked for but you touched my gabby bug (:-).

Regards




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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/3/2008 2:35:07 AM   
rlenty


 

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Status: offline 		Thank you very much Don41. As soon as i start to build it i let you know

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/4/2008 11:40:05 PM   
nhpdofficer



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Status: offline 		nice to see a Forum on this. I got the kit for Christmas, I just finnished the Revolver I also got, so now I am about to start building the elder. I'm also wanting to add a gun, but not sure witch one. I also got the T.F. scale wire wheels. I plan to use a FX46 on mine.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 9:05:26 AM   
thibor


 

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Status: offline 		Hey,

how are the builds going? Would love to see some tips and photo's.

Phil

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 12:26:46 PM   
papermache



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Status: offline 		rlenty,

One suggestion for your Elder. I don't know what kind of engine you'll be using, but if it's a 2-stroke, I'd suggest a horizontal mount instead of inverted. 2-strokes just don't run as well inverted.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 2:19:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the Williams Bros. URL: http://www.williamsbrothersmodelproducts.com/


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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 9:08:54 PM   
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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 10:59:59 PM   
Don41



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Status: offline 		Very nice Pilgrim. I really wish I had not gotten in a hurry and painted my exposed structure black (didn't have brown that day). At this point I can't decide whether to try adding brown over the black (assuming I can find some) or just leave it as is.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/9/2008 11:08:15 PM   
FlyingPilgrim



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Status: online 		I ended up staining my exposed wood with Minwax stain, then clear polyurathane over it. The oil content of the stain cause minor problem with the epoxy bonding the wood pieces (I stained all parts first, then assembled to avoid clear glue joints). I would think painting brown over the black paint should yield good results, you could even simulate added wood grain using a dry-brush technique, giving some contrast to the color.

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RE: Building a TOP FLITE ELDER - 1/10/2008 12:38:30 AM   
Don41