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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/2/2008 2:11:23 PM   
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albert, I know you sent me a pm earlier but any news on the plane from your friend?

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/2/2008 11:49:18 PM   
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Great job Doug .......... looking real good!

Thanks Ward,

It's been a good choice to build, there are so many things I will be looking for when I get a chance to build a 40%er.

After thinking through the lay out for a single canopy and forward hatch assembly and matching it with the turtle deck I am using Albert's advice. I am scraping the cockpit foor F4A with exception of how it flushes out the clam shell sides. I will build a frame for the canopy that will include the forward hatch like the newer design on a 40%. I added a piece of 1/4 stringer to the bottom of F3A and the cut out from F4A between F2A and F5A to strengthen the seam and also to give me a better surface to attach the clam shell side. I added some lightening holes to F3A and F4A.

My next move is to sheet the turtle deck so I can finish the truss back to the tail and have the proper width. After that I will add the remaing 1/4" stringers and build the clam shell sides. That way the canopy frame assembly can be build to match exactly for length and width to the fuse sides.

Doug

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/3/2008 7:33:25 PM   
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I thought it would be fun to set it up on the gear and check the layout of the front hatch, canopy and rear deck. It was also a little confidence boost to feel like was begining to look like an airplane. I am sheeting only the bottom edges of the hatch and rear deck, and to save some additional weight will hot wire out some of the foam core.

I am kind of at a stand still till the glue dries on the hatch and deck cores. I think I will cut and edge glue the sheeting for the horizontal and verticle stabs. This will be a challenge because half of the stack of sheeting is not edge trued with a BIG bow through the center.

Doug

Thanks Ron for the vote of confidence, I look forward to bringing it to the field.

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/3/2008 7:35:21 PM   
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A couple more for those of us who like pictures.

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/4/2008 5:37:03 PM   
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After sheeting the rear deck and forward hatch and then laying everything out on the plans, I was very unhappy with the fit of the forward hatch to the fuse sides. The forward hatch overhangs both sides of the fuse by nearly a 1/4" equally on both sides, which when you account tor the 3/32 clam shell sideing = aprox 3/32ish too much overhang. I have checked the plans to ensure I had not built or cut down anything by accident, all looks good. With out a hollowed out front hatch to I can not pull the sides in to match. My solution was to cut two 10mm wide strips of 3/32" balsa and laminate it to the sides of F4A and F3A and the 3/8" stringer I added earlier, between F2A and F5A. With a long sanding bar I will then take that 3/32" strip down to the exact width I need for the front hatch and taper it to match at F5A. Just call me Mr Balsa Dust.

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/4/2008 5:54:12 PM   
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Doug,

Your going to end up with a nice Plane! I have a DA-50 I'll sell you, PM me.

Ward

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/4/2008 6:39:19 PM   
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I thought it would be fun to set it up on the gear and check the layout of the front hatch, canopy and rear deck. It was also a little confidence boost to feel like was begining to look like an airplane. I am sheeting only the bottom edges of the hatch and rear deck, and to save some additional weight will hot wire out some of the foam core.

I am kind of at a stand still till the glue dries on the hatch and deck cores. I think I will cut and edge glue the sheeting for the horizontal and verticle stabs. This will be a challenge because half of the stack of sheeting is not edge trued with a BIG bow through the center.

Doug

Thanks Ron for the vote of confidence, I look forward to bringing it to the field.


(SP) vertical stab

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/6/2008 2:33:41 AM   
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I attached the rear deck last night and finished the cross trussing today. I am begining to lay out the wings and will begin the sheeting process next. Any recommendations for a ratio when lengthing and tapering ailerons, or do you just do what looks good? The plans call for a 33" non-tapered 3.25" aileron on a 42" wing panel. I layed out a length of 38.5 and a taper from 3.25 at the tip to 4.75 at the root, looks good .

Doug

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/9/2008 5:23:39 AM   
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Ahhh...

The wing task at hand. Nothing like the smell of polystyrene foam cores in the morning. After laying out the ailerons, I pluged the tube, fit the stress sockets, 1/4" drilled the tube slot (for glue), and glued in the phenolic tubes. While thinking through the layout for my aileron servos I made my wing sheets from the 1/16x3.25x42.5 balsa sheeting. I am going to blame the irregular (bowed) edging of the balsa to age and storage of the kit. The edges may have been trued 14 years ago, but not today. I did my best to pull the edges together, but I still had more glue seep through the joints than I would have liked. Most of it sanded flat on the work top with the palm sander using 220 and 400 grit, I am hopeful that after I get the sheets on the foam cores I will be able to work any remaing glue into a blend.

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/9/2008 5:25:30 AM   
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One of four wing sheets and the aileron template.

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/9/2008 5:29:34 AM   
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Cut out for aileron and servo wire.

Thanks Albert for the router attachment on Dremel idea, it does work great.

Thanks to, ? someone for the hot wire on my soldering iron idea for the servo wire cut out.

Doug

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/9/2008 5:34:44 AM   
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Servo cutouts complete, and servo channel capped with 1/4" balsa (thanks again Albert).

260lbs on each wing core, bench is holding 520lbs no problems, no deflection.

Doug

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RE: 30% 300S mod to mid wing? - 2/9/2008 5:44:22 AM   
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Just one more pic I thought was cool .

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