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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/16/2008 6:56:03 AM   
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Right now the largest airplane I fly is a 50cc PAU Extra 330L. My future defeintly holds a larger airplane such as this one.
PAU's website calls out a 100cc engine on the actual spec sheet, while the front page shows 85-115cc engine.
Would five cc's make a huge difference or cause issues. I was thinking that the New Brillelli 120cc engine would be sweet on this aircraft.
Yes I know overkill but none the less I love my 366GT and can only imagine the power with that engine doubled in size.
Thanks
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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/16/2008 4:25:09 PM   
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John,

I've flown one on a DA-85 and it has plenty of power for 3D huckin'!!! I have not flown one w/ the DA-100 yet, but that is what I will have in mine. Your engine choice should be fine and it sounds like you will have the additional power, PLUS the lower weight, should be a monster machine!!

Here's an FYI for all who are considering this plane: Now that I have her sitting on her gear, I took the plane out to my full-bed Dodge w/ canopy and it will fit straight in with the rudder cocked and the tailgate up! It also looks like I will be able to close the canopy door as well, but I do not have my engine mounted or a spinner on yet. There should also be plenty of room for my 50 cc Edge and all my gear as well, and that is without ANY kind of hassle or getting creative with my space. When I get her all done and RTF, I will finally be putting in the proper attachments in my truck for all my gear and at least two planes, so trips to the field will be easy and I can feel secure that everything will arrive at the field w/ no damage! With only my 50 cc I tend to just toss everything in back and not worry about it, but I have had some damage when I've had to hit the brakes hard, so I am not willing to risk that with this bird!

I will keep updating w/ my progress, but, unfortunately, I will be at my boys' bowling tournament ALL DAY today and won't get much done untilthis evening, if at all.

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/17/2008 4:30:19 AM   
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Astro,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm also wondering if the 80 that Scott is also building would be a decent choice.
It will be awhile before I purchase a aircraft this size.
I looking at a possible job change that might put me in the position to purchase another aircraft sometime in the next year and I'm looking at staying in the 50cc range or moving a step or two up in size. I love PAU's Customer service and their aircraft are top notch in quality. I also like Scott's Customer service and the products he builds. So hopefully when the time comes for me to really start planing the next build I will have a number of reviews out there to look at and read.
John

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/19/2008 3:26:43 AM   
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Just got mine today!! Thanks PTS!!! I have an 85 sitting here ready to go in it (As soon as it gets back from DA for the update!)

I gotta question, is anyone else having any problems getting the wingtube in the wing sockets? I
have already tried to fit the wingtube into place in both wings and it looks like the wings are gonna need some pretty serious honing. there is no way the tube will fit! Problem is I dont have a honer Any ideas on an easy fix without a honer available?

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/20/2008 12:52:43 AM   
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Tape a full sheet of 220 grit sand paper to an old broom handle and put all those years of practice to work
Your hardware store will sell dowels that should be close to the size you need also. I use a dowel from a GP trim cutting machine with a long all thread.

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/22/2008 4:47:12 PM   
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quote:

HA HA HA THE BIG 4 0 !!!!


You know, they say that 40 is the new 30, so...........


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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/28/2008 1:20:25 PM   
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Hello,

I was wondering if someone may have the right size standoffs required for a 3W-106. Also, where would I go about producing a custom standoff if one is required

Thanks,
andy

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/28/2008 4:01:23 PM   
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Upon closer inspection i found a broken former right behind the cockpit area. this could have been done after shipping due to me gettibg this econd hand , But.... Anyways the former was cracked on both sides and there was no glue on the middle stringer joint so I was able to remove the piece that goes all the way across the bottom. After removal I found the former is made out of wood that is so weak and brittle I couldnt belive it!!!! this piece of wood is like a cracker! I hope this whole plane does not have wood this brittle!!!!! Kinda scares me from wanting to even build this model! Thought you all should have a heads up! So I will try to fabricate a new piece to fit in there.
Still aint got the wingtube access issue fixed yet-- WAAYYYYYYYYYY to tight

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/28/2008 10:41:55 PM   
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Any pics AeroJack? I guess that is why the orginal owner sold it. It looks like a very nice plane and I have been considering one but have not heard any flight reports on it or seen any real good vid of the plane doing IMAC, freestyle,3d. Also it sounds as the plane is coming in nose heavy and there is no option for a servo mounted in the tail. Hopefully the next batch is updated.

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/28/2008 11:28:01 PM   
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Plaster, have you seen the video at http://www.performancercaircraft.com/html/edge_36/edge_36.html ? I believe there are also some on Youtube. Flyinrazrback made a good video of his as well. Plane looks awesome and if it flies anywhere near as well as my 50cc PAU Edge then it should be a real winner. I've been practicing unlimited IMAC with my 50cc even though it's set up more for 3D and it does very well.

As far as mounting a servo in the tail, I actually did that with my 50cc because I originally had a heavier engine installed. Just find some plywood to cut a hole into, add some reinfocement on the back and for your servo, and you are good to go.

< Message edited by Flyfalcons -- 3/28/2008 11:49:27 PM >


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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/30/2008 8:29:22 AM   
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I think it is time to dispel the myth that there is a CG issue with this plane.

1- People use different engines, with different weights, and it is impossible to engineer a plane with a single CG that will satisfy every one (some like it nose heavy, others like it tail heavy).
2- Even if one likes it very tail heavy, it take only a SMALL amount of weight in the tail to balance for the DA-100.
3- Someone spoke here about the plane being nose heavy, and glued weight in the stab tube: from the video I saw, the plane now looks tail heavy, and this person later wanted a replacement stab tube to move the CG forward again.

Whenever a plane has a CG problem, it is in most cases a tail-heavy plane, which is also usually a heavy plane over all. When you have a 105" plane weighing 26 lbs with a DA-100, you have a light plane. By essence, a light plane is more subject to CG variations with different engines/servos/batteries being used. It also means that the CG adjustment can be done mostly with moving the electronic equipment front or back, and no additional weight is usually required.

Now if we take an extreme case of wanting a tail heavy plane, and you added 4oz of weight in the tail of a 26lbs plane, you still have a plane with a 105” wing span that weighs 26-1/4 lbs (still light for that size!).

With a CG at 6-1/2” back of the leading Edge, the 36% Edge is flying great, is fully capable of all the 3D maneuvers in the book, and requires no additional balancing weight.


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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/30/2008 8:37:32 AM   
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What you state as to the balance issue is -- True very true!!
BUT-- As for my only concerns and issues, The former behind the cockpit is extremely brittle wood and The wingtube fit is rediculously tight!!!! (no way they'll go in) I would practically have to sand the sockets away!!! So as I see it I am out a good deal of $!! I would not dishonestly sell this to some other unknowing person, not my style.

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/30/2008 4:29:08 PM   
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Of the 4 edges I have seen in person, (and flown two of them myself, one with da100, one with da85) there are no issues with this planes CG, nor with fit either as these all fit fine. So not sure what is up with yours.

Have you called to resolve anything on yours yet? Or shown them pictures?

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/30/2008 5:04:47 PM   
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Is that right, the plane has a 6" CG range? If so that's very impressive!

Come to think of it, I don't think our Citation has that much range.

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RE: PAU 36% Edge 540 Assembly - 3/30/2008 5:13:31 PM   
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