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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/13/2008 3:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought it would be easier, You may still need to feather with blade putty after you glass, depends on how you go initially

yeah I like the fury too, quietly working away on the tail feathers

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/13/2008 7:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glued some balsa sheets together for the fill. I will cut them at a length of 6 inches. Pre sand the outboard edge prior to instalation. This will give me a nice taper, so I will not need as much fill. After that I will use some fill, and carry on with the wing work. It should turn out pretty good. When it is all glassed you will never know. I noticed this when I was doing the construction so I ensured any filling would be on the bottom, so it will be not as noticeable

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/13/2008 7:31 AM   
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 4:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Worked on the filler panels for the bottom of the wing. Sanded the edges for a nice long taper. Glued them on and have applied my first layer of filler. When this dries I will apply more filler covering a larger area to reduce the slope angle.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 4:39 AM   
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 7:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes Peter, light, and it looks pretty good. I put a second coat on tonight. I used a 6in drywall knife, and it has feathered out nicely. Tomorrow I will give it one more light skim coat and it will be good to go.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 11:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Craig, What kind of filler are you using on the wing. If its the lightweight spackle once fiberglassed it will separate from the wood once it gets hot one time..in the sun... I just can't tell from the pictures...

Your build is looking good . I had a friend that built 4 or 5 of these he really loved the plane...

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 4:12 PM   
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 6:18 PM   
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Yes I am using the lightweight spacle. I have never had an issue in the past with this stuff releasing, especially after glassing. Most of it will be sanded down anyhow, after I install it and sand the shape. I figured I would get it all built up before I sand using the fuselage section, as a guide for a good fit.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 6:38 PM   
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Status: online 		I have always used the regular Dap Vinyl Spackle. I find it goes on easier and sands beautifully to a feather edge. The lightweight spackle seems to have a grainy texture. Once glassed it has never separated. If you have had good luck with the light, by all means use what you are comfortable with. BTW Craig, the Corsair looks awesome, excellent craftsmanship.
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 6:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Fred
You are right about the grainy texture. The only issue that I do have with it is that sometimes balls up as you sand. I just take my time as I sand it to a good feathered edge. Never tried the Dap Vinyl Spackle before. Sounds like a good product, may have to check it out.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 7:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I switched to the 2 part spotting buddy on straight balsa or even use the Elmers wood filler... both are light weight and are tougher than the spackle. I have had the spackle release on a curve after being glassed and exposed to heat of a good sunny day....

Anyway its looking great ...Keep up the good work...

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 9:06 PM   
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Status: online 		Hi Craig. Told you I'd get you some pics of the gear door on my Corsair, so here ya go. Hope you can see what I'm talking about by the pictures. I used a Micro air switch and scale cylinders from Bob Violet models. I mounted an air cylinder to each door, when the retracts are retracted, one side contacts the micro air switch which triggers the gear door cylinders to close. It works pretty slick.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 9:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for posting those pictures. It gives me some good idea's and options for myself, as well as other viewers. I take it those cylinders pivot when they are in operation. How much clearance do you have with the tires?

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 9:52 PM   
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Status: online 		No they don't pivot, they are pretty much stationary. They move a small amount but pretty much stay where they are mounted. Those cylinders come in different lengths. If you look at the Bob Violet literature in the first pic you can see the different sizes. Kinda hard to read but its there.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/14/2008 10:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Craig,
most of those light weight fillers are very porous. If your resin thinned down with metho to about water consistency it will soak right into that filler. There is no way it is going to seperate then.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/15/2008 4:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Worked on the leading edge of the wing. Sanding it to shape, and it has turned out pretty good so far. I still need to sand some of the root end of the wings, have a little bit of rocking action, front to rear when it is mounted. Put another very light coat of filler on, which will be good for this stage. Any additional filling will be done after it is glassed.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/15/2008 4:58 AM   
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/15/2008 5:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its looking good craig.
I notice you have sheeted the whole outer wing and not followed the byron instructions for the fabric outer panels. I did the same and glassed the whole outer wings. Then I simulated the panels with tape and hi fill primer. The final result is much more convincing than the Byron method.
Here are a couple of pics of how I did mine.
Third flight tomorrow.
First flight November, bad ignition module and deadstick. Second, lastweek. Good flight but tailwheel plate must have gotten loose on the deadstick in November. Hope I have mos of bugs out. The plane is stable as can be.
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/15/2008 5:07 AM   
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Looks Awsome Good luck with your third flight. So how does she fly??
I decided to sheet and glass the whole wing as you mentioned. I will be replicating a refurbished Corsair and the wings are all metal. Question for you. When you were doing the wing attachment did your wing rock back and forth fore and aft. I am asking because mine has a very slight rock to it which is driving me nuts to correct. I was thinking on adding a small plate at the trailing edge to get rid of it. Did you use the counter weight system for the ailerons, or did you omit that part of the build.

Craig.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/15/2008 6:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Started playing with the aileron hinging. I was not happy with the hinges supplied with the kit, so I am going with the larger Robart 310 hinges that is on the right in the first picture. I cut out the leading edge of the aileron and have inserted the hinges. I have them just taped on the top of the wing, marked them and tomorrow I will centre them on the trailing edge. I will not put the hinge cover on until I have a good fit. I was looking at the linkage set up for the ailerons..............may do something a bit different.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/16/2008 2:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ailerons are hinged. Looks pretty good, with lots of movement.

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/16/2008 2:17 AM   
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I bought mine with the wings built by a guy who has built 8 byron corsairs at least. He put a tab on the wing with a blind nut just for the rocking problem. Almost every one has the problem if you dont do something. I will take a couple of pics of mine and show you how mine is done. It works a treat and is not a huge project to do.
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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/16/2008 5:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Paul. I had thought I had done something wrong with the rocking action
Yes a couple of pics would help. I like the looks of your Corsair. What wheels are you using?

Craig

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RE: Byron Corsair Build - 2/16/2008 6:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Worked on the trailing edge plywood. I used the template provided as a guide. I will be releaving 5/8th of an inch in width from the trailing edge and to the depth of the plywood. I made up a sanding block and just run it along the trailing edge until I get the depth I need. I use a small piece of ply to check the depth as I go. If I go to deep, a little filler will fix it after it is glued on.

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