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Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/14/2008 12:44:23 AM   
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Well here we go on a start to finish build of the Wedell Williams Racer. This is my first Byron kit and all I can say is WOW. The glass work is stunning, all parts bagged and inventoried. Source material will come from several websites that discuss the Wedell brothers and the book "Wedell-Williams Air Service" By Robert Hirsch and Barbara Schultz. I have the decal set for the Red Lion #121 but the #44 scheme looks really good too.

Power will be a G62. Probably Duralite lithium batteries at 6volts. Servos not chosen yet.

Any comments, suggestions, improvements are welcome. Not much on the boards about this plane with no prior build thread so I'm hoping to get a lot of info in here.

Pete

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/14/2008 3:20:41 AM   
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Hey Rocketman612,

This is going to be a very interesting build to follow, and follow I will.

I was thinking about building the Red Lion using Wendell Hostetler's plans sometime in the distant future but maybe this build will change my mind. Those fiberglass parts look so great!

What does the finished model measure and how much do you expect it to weigh?

Well, good luck and I'll be watching.





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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/14/2008 4:04:32 AM   
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Aerojunkie,

Weight should be 23 to 25 lbs. Wingspan 84in, Length about 65in.

Pete


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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/14/2008 5:07:49 AM   
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Pete
Good luck with your build. I am also building my first byron kit (Corsair), and I will be following your thread to see how you do things.

Craig.

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/14/2008 3:32:31 PM   
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Rocketman, I have built over 20 Byron models as a professional builder and can tell you that you have a gem in your hands. Make sure to sand the inside of the fuse where you install the formere with 80 grit sandpaper to rough up the surface. Then clean with vinagar. Yes I said vinagar. Make sure you use only polester resin to attach formers to the glass parts. Epoxy will not bond well with the polester resin of the fuse. Also if you are going to glass the (highly reccomended) foam wings and tail feathers use 1 1/2 oz. cloth. Do not use 1/2 or 3/4 oz. cloth. This will not have enough strength to keep your fingers from punching holes or dents in the foam while handling the model atfer it is finished. Byron used to supply a glassing kit that contained this weight of cloth. I am presently finishing up a Byron Staggerwing for myself. The 5th one I have built. Just love the looks of these classics. I want to make clear DO NOT USE polester resin to glass the foam parts though! The resin would melt the foam. Use Epoxy type resin for the foam parts. I use Bondo Brand polester resin bought at local Walmarts, K Mart etc. I used to use K&B's , but there no longer in business. Also the Bondo brand is less expensive than going to the LHS and buying Sigs. They both work the same. I normally use about twice as much catalist hardner than called for to make it set up quicker. Instead of 8 drops per ounce I use 12-16 drops.
I also use a hot melt glue gun with Stanley brand glue sticks to tac the formers in place. I also use the glue to fill in the voids between the former and the fuse skin. Go easy on this. This holds the former in place while you glass it in. It also absorbs vibration by being some what flexable I've found. I normally also make a cowl ring in the back of the cowl to attach the cowling so I do not have those big cowl screws showing that they use. If you have any question along the way , please feel free to give me a shout. I just realalized this kit has built up wings so you won't have to worry about glassing them. You are really going to love flying this bird.
Look forward to your build.
Gary Webb

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/15/2008 1:44:09 AM   
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Gary,
Thanks for the tips on building a Byron kit. I'm planning on using BVM Aeropoxy to set the formers to the fiberglass. Here are a couple of links to this product

http://bvmprops.com/Tools/aeropoxy.htm

http://www.bvmjets.com/Pages/glue.htm

Pete


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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/15/2008 2:08:24 AM   
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Here is my G-62 powered from the last of the Byron kits. Good flyer but can be squirrley on take off until the rudder becomes effective.
Good honest airplane that won't be confused with anyrhing else at the field.

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/15/2008 4:24:04 PM   
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I have not tried his product. I see that it will adhere to polyester resin which is great. I am from the old school and think glassing the formers in on both sides give a better mechanical connection and spreads the load over a larger area on the Byron glass fuse.
The BVM fuse my be stronger and can stand the stress better. Do not know. I have never built one of his kits.
I will keep my eye on your project for updates as to how the adhesive holds up.
Gary

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/15/2008 11:51:45 PM   
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NICE!

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/16/2008 1:32:35 AM   
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Here is a picture of mine that I fly regularly

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/16/2008 3:42:49 AM   
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Gremlin Castle,

Thanks for posting those great motivational photo's

Derjager,

No photo's in your post??

Progress so far. Made the spars and W-1 ribs fro both wing halves. I used socket head servo screws instead of the 1/2 in #2 screws to anchor the rods. The #2 screws are not long enough when you add the 1/8 in washout spacer.

Pete

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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/16/2008 4:12:51 AM   
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RE: Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build - 1/16/2008 6:13:34 AM