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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 3/28/2008 7:27:11 PM   
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Remember that any newbie to RC can easily put some dihedral in the wing via Extreme tape and that'll help ease them into flying planes. When you're more experience just peal off the tape and let the wing flatten out. Even without dihedral I don't think this plan would make a bad first one to learn on, though. The fuse hanging below the wing acts as a weight to help self correct the plane a bit, though not as good as putting dihedral in the wing. Just lift the wing tips a half to one inch or so and you should be good.


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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 3/28/2008 9:39:11 PM   
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A slow stick is a better learners platform than a SO but it would work fine if you have plenty of room to work with. The SO is a bank and yank flyer so if you like video games it may be easier to fly than the slow stick. Try out the two on FMS if you have not already done so.


HAHA! I've never heard the term "bank and yank" but it is so true. I think the singular reason I could actually fly the plane (and end up crashing it anyway) is video games (FlightSim, Crimson Skies)... And of course mornings worth of RealFlight...

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 3/28/2008 9:40:40 PM   
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Remember that any newbie to RC can easily put some dihedral in the wing via Extreme tape and that'll help ease them into flying planes. When you're more experience just peal off the tape and let the wing flatten out. Even without dihedral I don't think this plan would make a bad first one to learn on, though. The fuse hanging below the wing acts as a weight to help self correct the plane a bit, though not as good as putting dihedral in the wing. Just lift the wing tips a half to one inch or so and you should be good.



As long as you had a huge field with no angry tennis players I vote that this is a great plane to learn on.

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 3/29/2008 1:23:00 AM   
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Remember that any newbie to RC can easily put some dihedral in the wing via Extreme tape and that'll help ease them into flying planes. When you're more experience just peal off the tape and let the wing flatten out. Even without dihedral I don't think this plan would make a bad first one to learn on, though. The fuse hanging below the wing acts as a weight to help self correct the plane a bit, though not as good as putting dihedral in the wing. Just lift the wing tips a half to one inch or so and you should be good.



As long as you had a huge field with no angry tennis players I vote that this is a great plane to learn on.

ya, handles REALLY GOOD in FMS, no bad stall junk like with the stick, if it stalls, it goes into a nosedive for a while, the soo (in fms w/wind) does'nt do that sorta stuff, do you norm use the aeleron and elevator in turns because i can't seem to get the rudder to respond

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 4/1/2008 8:11:36 PM   
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Calvino,


There is no rudder on the SO if that is what you are asking? A&E is how the plane is controlled.

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Part 2) - 4/1/2008 9:20:49 PM   
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That jet reminds me. I posted a few threads on fastest jet designs and learned a few things. For instance, subsonic performance you'll want a blunt, or bulb nose on it just as they have in the cruize missle, supersonic it will need to be pointed. The more I got into it, the more I realized, the fastest jet would not be a jet at all, it's a missle, yet, keeping it jet like, the sr71 would be the best direction to go in this area, which is similar to the original design here.

The 12 series motor did pretty well, it did best in my Microjet, WOT, it was at the end of a rather huge field I fly at in the blink of an eye. With the So. between the drag from the booms and the shape of the wings, it topped out slower then I expected, even with that power system I was using, but much too fast for a new pilot to handle, which means, if this is your first aileron trainer guys, stick to the old gear if you have any on hand and build as light as possible.

Here is the red So. with the swept back wings I showed a photo of befreo using it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bsU_YnE5t-g


What size prop are you using on the 12T? Like I said, on my Stryker an APC E 8x6 gives it unlimited V and crazy speed, but it's red lining the motor at close to 30 amps.



I'm using a 7/4 mainly, I don't have a watt meter but it's coupled with a 1000 mah 11.1 lipo and the esc is rated at 18 amps, so pushing it a bit I guess, it's a good cheap set up.

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 4/2/2008 6:48:50 AM   
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Calvino,


There is no rudder on the SO if that is what you are asking? A&E is how the plane is controlled.

ya, that twas what I was askin, got it, no wonder it controls sooo nice , I have an idea for kinda a "mini soo" using one of those "chuck glider" planes, and taking the fuse of it... kinda scalin it down, saves time and $$$$$

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 4/4/2008 6:22:28 PM   
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Fisher beat me to that one. Yep, no rudders in the flight simulator, just the original So controls. A few of us have put rudders on our planes. I've stripped the Tyvek paper off the build and and doing a few mods and weight saving things, covering it with something else. Love the Tyvek paper but with this really dense EPS I'm using, the two extra servos (rudder and second aileron), and the already bulky design being that the So is a dual boomer, the plane was a portly 31 ounces. It flew well but since I was going to mod a few things I figured I'd also try to trim the weight down without loosing any strength. It came out well. Pictures soon. I think you guys will like the outcome. Projected great weather this weekend so I've got to finish her up tonight.


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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (P... - 4/7/2008 6:54:16 AM   
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I had an interesting experience flying yesterday. I took it out to a local park (without tennis courts ) to fly, and there was a baseball game going on in the nearby field. A whole ton of kids came to watch me fly, and even though it was too windy to keep flying and I was only in the air for a total of ~5 minutes. They were thoroughly interested. I had read a thread on RCGroups that was about how scratchbuilders are on the decline and less and less people are making their own planes, going towards RTFs and ARFs. These kids were extremely enthusiastic in pulling their parent's legs saying "I want to build an airplane too!" wether they actually would end up building one or not. One of the parents asked where I got the plans and stuff. I really don't think that scratchbuilding is a dying art.

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (P... - 4/7/2008 4:52:22 PM   
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I get this same thing happening everyother time I head to the park. I started carying a couple of printouts of info for beginners to hand them. Just has things like links to this site and other resources for interested beginners.

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (P... - 4/7/2008 7:20:05 PM   
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That's a great idea, Fisher. Got to fly the dual boomer yesterday with the yet unfinished mods (re-covering, etc). On the fourth or fifth pack I had a bad glitch near ground level and ended up bouncing the tail booms off the ground. H-stab came loose and put a crack in one boom (the one I hadn't covered yet) right at the trailing edge of the wing. We all know from experience that this is the weakest point of the design. I normaly put carbon tubes in the booms connected to the one in the wing and to the flat carbon going across the h-stab but in this build I didn't. I bet if that boom would have been covered with the Ultracoat like the other that I had already put on it would have been fine. Just a hair line crack, though, and no chunked foam at the h-stab either. The h-stab was put on with epoxy because the area is too thin for foaming gorilla glue to keep contained. Maybe I'll let the Gorilla glue stop foaming and then paint that onto the h-stab where it connected to the booms to avoid it foaming out. Fun day and happy with how the plane is starting to fly. Pictures/info soon.



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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 4/8/2008 4:37:33 AM   
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I have been following the SO thread for sometime and would like to build one. I have an OS 40 engine I would like to put in a plane, I would appreciate it if someone could give me a figure for increasing the dimensions of the original SO plans to handle the OS 40.

Thanks

Mike

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (P... - 4/8/2008 5:47:57 AM   
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I had an interesting experience flying yesterday. I took it out to a local park (without tennis courts ) to fly, and there was a baseball game going on in the nearby field. A whole ton of kids came to watch me fly, and even though it was too windy to keep flying and I was only in the air for a total of ~5 minutes. They were thoroughly interested. I had read a thread on RCGroups that was about how scratchbuilders are on the decline and less and less people are making their own planes, going towards RTFs and ARFs. These kids were extremely enthusiastic in pulling their parent's legs saying "I want to build an airplane too!" wether they actually would end up building one or not. One of the parents asked where I got the plans and stuff. I really don't think that scratchbuilding is a dying art.

wow, you lucked out, norm my dad is yelling at me to do _________ with the plane, or people are telling me I can't fly , I have an IDEA for taking the chuck glider (4.5' wingspan) and making it like a soo, flys (in sim) better than a stick IMO)

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RE: Here's A Simple & FREE First Foam Build Plan! (Pa... - 4/8/2008 4:02:31 PM   
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Woah, a 40? I don't know much about engines but that seems a little big. You would need to scale it up ALOT.

You might be better off just getting an electric system for cheap from hobbycity.com.

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