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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pie... - 3/5/2008 3:56:30 PM

Ichy

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Wow! But..... but ....... it's too nice to fly!

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pie... - 3/6/2008 12:28:47 AM

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Wow! But..... but ....... it's too nice to fly!

We have several war bird events in the area and I intend to make the local rounds with her this year. We'll see. I have been know to sell planes when done just so I don't see them damaged first hand. I will say this, I will either fly it or sell it. I don't have room anymore for hanger queens.

My goal on this one was to take a 'ready to assemble' plane that had potential with scale lines, was a proven good flyer, and was light to begin with, and take it to another level in scale realism with modifications and detailing with only 5 or 6lbs added. This plane has a 90" wing that is almost flat bottom. I expect it to handle the extra weight of all this quite well. I think I have seen where this P-38 has gone as high as 19lbs and still flown good. I expect to be under that.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/6/2008 2:07:07 AM

Ichy

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"....take it to another level in scale realism ....."

You have certainly done that! Congratulations! Very nice bird.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/6/2008 2:22:28 AM

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Thanks. I'm glad you like it. The best compliment for me when it is done and at the field will be when they say "which kit is that, I don't recognize it".

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/6/2008 12:44:30 PM

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Experimented with the aluminum foil and simulating paint chips on the leading edges. WOW, does this work nice. I used Rustolium Metal Finish and the foil and it looks better than anything I have ever used other than the tedious hand painting that takes me hours. This took about 15 min. I went right over top what I had already done another way. Thanks to GG for the suggestion. I also used it on the tail, and I'm going to see if I can use it on the cowls and gear doors, and nose cone as well.

The spinners and gear should be here today!!!

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/6/2008 7:50:50 PM

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Hey Ram,

I flew mine this morning. I didn't go as far as you are with the modifications. I only cut the wings for removable tips and added retracts. I am using YS 63's, 2 receivers and batteries. The weight came out to 16lbs. 12 oz. Scared the heck out of me that it is so much.

NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!

It took off like it had JATO. I had the elevator set at neutral and had to give it a bunch of down. PLENTY OF POWER. Most of the flight was spent at about half throttle, except for the loop and victory rolls. Mine is the gray one, and boy is it hard to see. On landing, after I got it lined up, it settled in nicely.

By the way, with the gear retracted, the balance needed 1 oz on the tail, which I did not add.

The elevator ended being 3/16 down from neutral.

Overall, I am very pleased with it. Dale

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/7/2008 12:53:27 AM

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Hey Ram,

I flew mine this morning. I didn't go as far as you are with the modifications. I only cut the wings for removable tips and added retracts. I am using YS 63's, 2 receivers and batteries. The weight came out to 16lbs. 12 oz. Scared the heck out of me that it is so much.

NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!

It took off like it had JATO. I had the elevator set at neutral and had to give it a bunch of down. PLENTY OF POWER. Most of the flight was spent at about half throttle, except for the loop and victory rolls. Mine is the gray one, and boy is it hard to see. On landing, after I got it lined up, it settled in nicely.

By the way, with the gear retracted, the balance needed 1 oz on the tail, which I did not add.

The elevator ended being 3/16 down from neutral.

Overall, I am very pleased with it. Dale

Thanks so much for this post Dale. Good info to have. Pictures, pictures, we need pictures!!! Did you do gear doors? What gear did you use?

I thought all along that this wing airfoil should handle a considerable amount of weight. One thing I liked about this plane when I got it.

I'm using two new Moki 61s and have been thinking more about that as this thing has evolved. But I keep coming back to that Top Flight 310 at 19lbs with two OS 55AXs. I've seen one fly with all the options and those engines and it was way faster than scale and even had the power to stay aloft and make a good landing on one engine!!!

Your post was enchouraging to me. I don't think I'll worry about it any more. Thanks again.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/7/2008 1:26:59 AM

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Hi Dale glad to see you got the p38 flying. It is still cold up here and windy today. When are you comming up.? Rich

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/7/2008 4:32:29 AM

dalita

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Hi Rich,

We probably won't be up until the second half of May. It was a little breezy and about 69 here.

Ram,

Spring air retracts with no gear doors, no fancy struts on the LG. I think you will have more than adequate power with the Moki 61's, but it's hard to beat the sound of the 4 strokes. I think Nitro was right about using 52's. I did use a TwinSync with onboard glow, mainly for the safety of engine out. I forgot to take pictures, but it's no beauty like yours will be.

Dale

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/7/2008 1:39:34 PM

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Hi Rich,

We probably won't be up until the second half of May. It was a little breezy and about 69 here.

Ram,

Spring air retracts with no gear doors, no fancy struts on the LG. I think you will have more than adequate power with the Moki 61's, but it's hard to beat the sound of the 4 strokes. I think Nitro was right about using 52's. I did use a TwinSync with onboard glow, mainly for the safety of engine out. I forgot to take pictures, but it's no beauty like yours will be.

Dale

Dale, thanks for the rundown. As far as beauty goes, it still won't win any scale contests, but it should turn a head or two. A three piece wing and retracts, as you have done, is still quite an upgrade. Nitro should give us at least that from the factory IMO.

I broke one of my own rules and mounted the engines inverted in a twin (purely for looks), so I'm also using on-board glow.

I do feel a lot better about my engine choice thanks to you. Thanks to your flight report. Thanks again.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/7/2008 6:43:56 PM

dalita

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Ram,

It's worth the price of a ticket to see it in a low flyby. Can't tell it is not close to scale. Sure is a smooth and responsive flier.

Dale

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pi... - 3/8/2008 12:59:46 AM

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Ram,

It's worth the price of a ticket to see it in a low flyby. Can't tell it is not close to scale. Sure is a smooth and responsive flier.

Dale

Looking forward to joining you for that rush

, with mine. What do you think? Mine should be easy to see with green on top, Grey on the bottom, and full invasion stripes.

Just checked and still no nose gear.

However, one of the two spinners I ordered came in. I found that a True Turn 2 1/2" FAI spinner is very close to the scale shape. The LHS only ordered one instead of two. They stock a couple dozen other True Turns, but not this one, of course.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pie... - 3/8/2008 6:58:06 AM

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Engines are back in. Here is how I locate holes in cowls. Did a little more painting on the wing roots also.

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RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 pie... - 3/8/2008 1:05:36 PM

mpope1

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Amazing work! I have been flying this plane (electric) for over a year now, 2 of my buddies went in on the project with me. We modeled it after the california cutie. I thought we put alot of work into ours, but after following your thread I don't think that anymore. Your attention to detail, well I am speechless. Here are a couple pix of ours, look foward to following the rest of your build, Mike.

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