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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/7/2008 10:47:56 PM   
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The Bugs in the videos seem slow moving and they are able to do a roll so maybe speed is not my problem. Ron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZs4QnlLZo&eurl=http://www.lightflite.com/

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/7/2008 11:44:37 PM   
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That's the 47in. extra super large giant sized bug Roll rate is all in your choice in the setup of throws, as to how fast it rolls or how much ail.you give it.

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 12:23:55 AM   
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Ron I have rates at 75%, which is about 2.25", full defection is about 3.25". I usually fly with my expo at 20%. I hope that is helpful.

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 12:53:49 AM   
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Hi Tim
Did 6 packs today, now I should do a 6 pack.
Still can't do a roll. I did get inverted by the wind and pulled out in a loop so that's something, at 10 feet. Really don't know what Expo means but mine is set at 65. Do you know what it means? The loops I'll get just got to get a little more nerve and speed. When I try to roll all I do is turn with a lean. Maybe I should have A closer setting to 100% on the flaps (aileron, elevon). Can you get a roll just by moving the right stick full right or full left? If so maybe its my flaps, they only move about 1 1/4 inch from flat. If I throw the 3 switches on my radio I would have full travel which might be too much. I could try the full travel, crash, than I should tell something about a roll.
What causes the servos to chatter? Flies fine but they flicker when standing still.

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 2:13:37 AM   
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Ron, many questions at once.

OK, first expo is the amount of sensitvity to the center of the stick. For example, 0% expo is pure stick movement, and on this plane pretty close to proportional. That is how I taught my self to fly this plane. The more expo you have the more gently the plane flies. For the DX radios that is + expo, for Hitec it is - expo. As I said earlier I use 20% expo, it gentles the plane a bit for minor flight adjustments. I lost the plane to a roof 3 times since I have had it. 2 of those time were when I was playing with 50+% expo. I have found a home at 20% expo, but am thinking of reducing it, maybe.

I think this is why loops and rolls are hard for you to do. By the time you have the stick in the correct position the plane is in a gentle turn, that turns into a dive due to the major last minute change. Your radio may have d/r for expo. Mine does not. I would recommend trying lower expo in stages. If you are really comfortable with the gentle turns, the difference will be huge if you drop to low expo fast. For example, I'm used to flip/rolling out of trouble. When I was playing with hi expo I was unable to do that. A flip/roll changes your direction in about 40".

Elevon deflection: According to the instructions you want between 2 1/4 low and 3 1/4 high. Mine are set about 2 1/4 for low. The easy way to adjust this is to measure up from the wing, mark your spot then keeping the ruler square, mark the rudder. You should be able to adjust that height with your radio. Adjusting the rate % higher should give you
more elevon travel. Try this before messing with your expo. I know that is too much expo for my radio, but you have a better radio.

Servo clicks: This is a problem I have left behind. I assume this is when the tx is on? If so the options are a carppy servo or poor connection, or interference from something else. Since you are using dx tech I doubt the latter. I tend to think it is going to be the servos themselves. I have hitec hs-55's on my bug with no issues at all.

Ron you might want to really look at the rc book, it has helped me a lot. I hope this is helpful.

Off to fly out some batteries,

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 12:41:34 PM   
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Thanks Tim
Maybe the Expo should be dropped on my to 30. I do have Dual Rates set so flap movement is adjusted. Switches in one one direction make flaps 50-60% active and switches the other way 100% active (rudder aileron, elevon). Maybe I should adjust these to 75% on the low side as movement only looks like 1 1/4 inch on aileron and elevon. Did you say you could do rolls at 40% expo? Guess I have to experiment!

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 1:52:08 PM   
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Got the nerve to flip the aileron and elevon switches so they both have 100% and elevator also has 100%. Wow! What a difference. Now loops are at will and tight small loops are doable. Have to still work on rolls! Still didn't move the Expo but this change is night and day. Have to be careful not to over turn. Should I just leave it at full???Have to experiment more and think about that expo setting, maybe 40% would be a good test from 65%. Thanks Ron

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/8/2008 11:55:50 PM   
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ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION
What would cause the electric to cut out after the first 15 seconds of flight and come back on 30 seconds later and work fine for the total remainder of the flight? Ron

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/9/2008 12:09:07 AM   
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A loose battery connector in your radio??

Try raising your low rate, At speed high rates can be challenging. Try 75-80%?

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/10/2008 2:34:37 PM   
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Hey Timster
I have the rates at 100%. All flap full travel. Any reason not to run this way? Still have expo at 65%. Thanks Ron

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/11/2008 12:35:41 AM   
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Ron, the only drawback is that at speed, 75% or more, mine gets squirrelly on full throws. I also use less expo, so my inputs come faster.

I got myself a new radio. Optic 6, the big brother of my flash 5, it has far more mixing ability than the flash 5 however.

Only one flight yesterday, it's a bit windy. Still blowing now.

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/11/2008 12:52:01 AM   
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Hey Tim My Man
COOL RADIO! GOOD LUCK WITH IT! ABOUT TIME!
Got 7 packs in today but two days of rain coming. My Expo was at 65 and Ron at lightflite said go higher 70-75. can you tell me what would be the feel difference between 70 and your 20. It it quicker bursts at 20 or less? Is 20 slower or faster moving. I still haven't done a roll but plenty of loops.
How about fly time, I was getting almost 9 minutes with slow flying and 50% throws but now only getting about 6 minutes. Whats your fly times?

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/11/2008 9:23:44 PM   
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Bug has a servo in it that chatters. Checked the gears and they are fine but still chatters but works fine. It actually moves the aileron real fast about 1/4 inch even during flight. Don't really notice during a flight. It is the servo as I checked against a new one. Anyone know why they chatter? Wonder if I can post in another section of RC UNIVERSE?

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/12/2008 12:13:34 AM   
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Ron, just try out a little less expo. To me the times I tried 50 and 70 expo the controls felt really mushy compared to what I'm used to. My flight times are coming up to about 10 minutes each, now that the trim is better.

If your servo is chattering and the rx is good, something in the servo, either gears or wiring is going bad.

Tim

Big talk about battery life is proving wrong today. 6-7 minutes per battery. Near perfect conditions, light wind, sunny( I prefer some clouds) and about 72*. I'm flying high and far. Tim

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RE: LightFlite Bug - 4/12/2008 2:20:57 AM   
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More battery observations. Batteries 1 and 2 have about 100 charge cycles on them, most of which are done back to back. They are giving me about 7 minutes each at 75% power on, and seem a bit sluggish. Battery 3, which I got about 2 weeks ago seems good to go for the full 10 minutes. I usually landed after 8 minutes to keep from over-extending the battery. So the question becomes, How many cycles will a battery take?

I assume most folks fly their bug once or twice a week, as this seems to be the normal pattern of flyers. With that math I have almost a years worth of flight from the batteries already. What is considered a good lifespan on lipo's?

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