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Adonis -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/23/2008 7:02:43 PM)

Josh,

Got my hub today, well almost, I was not prepared for an additional $30.75 Brokerage Fee on top of the $33 or so I already paid for shipping.[:o] Is this normal, I've never been charged a Brokerage Fee, can I get some input on this and was it anticipated and I just missed it?

Luke




Skaweee -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/23/2008 8:18:33 PM)

I got hit with a $40.16 brokerage fee. I called UPS and they said it had to do with the fact that it came from out of country. Duty fees, blaa, blaa, blaa. This is such a new thing that the UPS delivery guy didn't even know who to make the check out to. Don't know if this is a UPS thing, or if all carriers are required to apply these charges for some new federal law. Anybody else know what is going on? I couldn't refuse to make the payment knowing that beautiful work of art was only a hand's grasp away! [;)] Thanks again Josh, you da man!



Juice -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/23/2008 8:26:27 PM)

Hi Luke,

In the United States I'm not sure how brokerage fees work (a.k.a. duty fees, customs fees, sales taxes). The $33 or so you already paid to me was what I paid to UPS to ship the package. I don't know who gets the $30.75, but it's not me.

Is it normal? In the USA, I don't know.

Was it anticipated? In Canada whenever I'm expecting a shipment, sometimes I get dinged with brokerage fees, sometimes I don't. I haven't figured out the pattern, but I THINK it has to do with how busy the customs office is. Personally, I do anticipate it but I always hope I don't have to pay it. In the USA, I don't know if you should anticipate it.

In hindsight, I guess I should have warned everyone that it may be possible that a brokerage fee might have to be paid in order to receive the package. But in honest truth, I didn't think about it until you guys mentioned it to me. I am very sorry for the unpleasant surprise.

Is it the shippers responsibility to inform the receiver about their local customs laws? An honest question. For stuff I buy online, the shippers never warn me about it.

Josh



shotgun06 -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/23/2008 11:13:10 PM)

It's a known fact that UPS are charging brokerage fees that are beyong what would be considered extortion when you send something with them across the border. Either from the US to Canada or the other way around. Especialy that nobody else charge brokerage fees, not even FEDEX,Canada Post or USPS. As a Canadian, I have to buy a lot of my RC stuff from the US and I learned the hard way. Now I only buy from vendors who use anything but UPS.



snurckle -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/24/2008 1:37:57 AM)

Had the same problem. Hand's grasp away, and I had to send the UPS guy packing. I'll have to run to the bank tomorrow and get a cashiers' check, since my wife has the checkbook and is out of town. It would have been nice to know before hand, and I'm sure Juice would have used FedEx instead, had he realized UPS would charge the fee. No big deal, just need to make sure I have the check to give the UPS guy, since he won't take cash. Since when did a check become worth more than cash?



saramos -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/24/2008 1:48:22 AM)

I'm sorry, but it it happens to me, I don't think I'll be accepting delivery. I have no contract with UPS on this delivery, and I'll be D@med if I'm going to give them a F(*&Y^*(& penny!

This is crazy. I live in the same state where these were manufactured, and I'm going to have to pay additional??
H*(( NO. UPS can kiss my...

I'm sorry if this causes any problems Josh. I know it was none of your doing, but this is just too much for me to take.

Scott



Adonis -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/24/2008 4:21:56 AM)

Yea, live and learn, but it’s no fault of Josh. It’s just that this thing was expensive from the start and it just rubbed salt in it! I’m going to fork out the cash to the kings men tomorrow but I will not use them again if I can help it. Should have charged the UPS guy a fee for using my sidewalk. [>:]



saramos -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/24/2008 4:49:12 AM)

You know, that's a great suggestion!

I agree fully that it is not Josh's fault.

Scott



joey_snaproll -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/24/2008 8:59:07 AM)

Just wait......... See if you get sent another invoice from UPS saying you haven't paid ,than another then another .They tried to ding me 4 times for a $103.00 for there charge when I got a Al masters 81 " do 335 sent to me .A few phone calls later over a few days (my time) and the same story to two or three people,got it worked out ,but I will never us UPS to ship across the boarder,won't even use it here. I'll wait a few extra days and ship Canada post ,I'll just insure it and a tracking number. We would get arrested for running a scam like that.

anyway,Great hub josh ,


Joe



Rocketman612 -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/25/2008 12:15:47 PM)

Josh and others

My hub arrived[:D][:D]

UPS left the package on the doorstep. It had nothing on the box or invoice that requires me to give UPS any more cash for "Borkerage Fees" . Nothing was left on or in the door as a bill either. I'll wait for the "shoe to fall" for a few days but then forget about it.

Josh it takes a lot to really impress me but you have here. From an idea to holding the hub I know you worked hard to make this a reality. All on your off time and married to boot.

I deeply thank you for your effort!!!

Pete



saramos -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/28/2008 6:11:59 AM)

I apologize for making such a harsh post when I heard about the brokerage fees. It came at the end of a couple of bad sleep deprived days.

I found the package waiting for me on my doorstep this morning. It must have been delivered on Friday. Like Pete, there was no bill with it.

Josh, you did a fantastic job on this project. I feel honored to have been a recipient of one of these hubs. It will really help to take the Corsair to another level.

Thanks!!!

Scott



snurckle -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/28/2008 5:20:02 PM)

Well, I had to dish out the 30.75. A little peterbed that some didn't at this point.

The hub looks awesome! Josh - you definately put some time in. What made it even better - the instructions, pictures, even stickers/decals. Thanks for putting this project through to the end, awesome hub, and I can't wait until I have an RCV 120 to put it on.

As weather would have it - it's too hot to work on my corsair, so it hasn't been touched in a month.



Juice -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/28/2008 9:30:23 PM)

I'm glad you guys like the hub. It makes it worth all the effort.

Once again, I'm sorry for those who had to pay an extra brokerage fee for an already expensive hub. It seems to be a crap shoot. So far, the package slipped under the radar to at least 4 people.

Some people will have three "Hamilton Sunstrand" or "Hamilton International" decals in the shipment. I saw them at a local store called Aviation World. They are the perfect size and shape for 1/8 scale Hamilton Standard props, only the name is slightly different. I bought their entire stock, but there still wasn't enough for everyone to get one. I'm sorry for those who didn't get one. It was a crap shoot also.

One more hub paid for out the door. That leaves 3 more hubs left over. Any more takers?

Josh



HellcatAce -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (7/31/2008 10:39:35 PM)

Hey Josh, my UPS guy said the best way to work it with them is to declare the shipment as a gift, then insure it for the value. The $30.75 is our country's way of charging an import duty on a foreign product. Don't worry guys, my bud across town got his before mine and didn't have to pay up front, but UPS WILL send you an invoice for the duties. He had the same thing happen when he bought a plane off a guy in Canada (B.C.). You can call and try to negotiate a partial refund of the duties, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. Anyway, if you don't pay the invoice, UPS will simply stop shipping to you until you pay.

Now how's that for good ol fashioned American customer service? [:@]



Juice -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (10/9/2008 5:25:45 AM)

Hi guys...

It has been a few months. The UPS nightmare is behind us now. How's everyone enjoying their hub? I've seen two build threads using the hub. Does anyone else have any progress on their builds?

As you guys may know, I use my hub on an RCV-90SP flying a Hangar 9 Corsair. All summer, I've been using 16" blades set to 11" pitch. After about 20 flights, I finally broke my first prop. I had another one of my nose over landings, but this time one of the blades dug into the ground before the rest of the plane flipped over. About 2" of the prop tip broke off, but otherwise nothing else was damaged. It's not a big deal.

I had to dismantle the hub to replace the broken blade. But instead, I decided to try at set of 18" blades and set it to 10" pitch. I know this is TOO MUCH prop for the 90SP. I know the peak RPM will be reduced by 1000 RPM. I was pretty sure I would be able to fly with this prop configuration, but I just had to prove it to myself. I kept the flight short to make sure I don't overheat the engine.

Here's the video evidence...
http://www.vimeo.com/1918254

So it can fly with a "TOO-BIG" prop. And that big prop looks really nice... spinning and not spinning, on the ground and in the air. Everyone at the field was surprised and very impressed. The question is: What are the long-term effects of over propping an engine?

Next time out, I will use the same prop configuration (18x10), but this time use a cooler glow plug. On the ground I'll make sure I can keep the engine at full-throttle without over heating. If all is well, I'll make another flight doing more than just slow passes.

Josh



tmac48 -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (10/9/2008 10:45:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Juice

I'm glad you guys like the hub. It makes it worth all the effort.

Once again, I'm sorry for those who had to pay an extra brokerage fee for an already expensive hub. It seems to be a crap shoot. So far, the package slipped under the radar to at least 4 people.

Some people will have three "Hamilton Sunstrand" or "Hamilton International" decals in the shipment. I saw them at a local store called Aviation World. They are the perfect size and shape for 1/8 scale Hamilton Standard props, only the name is slightly different. I bought their entire stock, but there still wasn't enough for everyone to get one. I'm sorry for those who didn't get one. It was a crap shoot also.

One more hub paid for out the door. That leaves 3 more hubs left over. Any more takers?

Josh

Iam interested, do you know how much with post to Bendigo,Australia?
Regards Terry McCleary.



saramos -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (10/9/2008 5:23:06 PM)

Great video Josh. Congratulations!

Scott



Juice -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (10/12/2008 6:02:25 AM)

I had a request to post pictures of the the broken 16" blade. Here they are...





Aluminum Overcast -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (10/12/2008 3:57:06 PM)

I hate to see such fine work "disassembled" this way. The prop and hub are truly beautiful. Nice work!



HellcatAce -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (11/24/2008 10:37:35 PM)

Mine is still neatly wrapped waiting for it's plane to be finished. Have you considered doing another run of these hubs?



Juice -> RE: 1/8 scale functional Hamilton Standard hub for RCV SP engines. (11/24/2008 11:38:32 PM)

Hi Ace,

I have NOT considered doing another run. I'll tell you the reasons why...

1. I promised Carl from Soloprop that it would be only a one-time production run.
2. I don't make any money out of it. The cost price of the hub is already expensive. Imaging if I increased the price to make a profit. I don't think anyone would buy them.

When I think about it, it really didn't make any financial or business sense in doing the first run. The cost per hub is to high to make it practical. The real motivation in doing the first run was to satisfy my curiosity and to challenge myself. Now that it's done, there is no more motivation.

Why do you ask? Do you want another one for a twin? [:D] B-25, F-7F, DC-3, C-47? If you do one of those, I will let you borrow my spare. [:D]

Josh



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