KidEpoxy
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Heck before I joined, I would have fought tooth and nail if some club came near my land and wanted me to be forced to join them or not fly my stuff as it interfered with them
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You hit the nail on the head.
But we also have to see that it works both ways, that a new PPP club can pop up anywhere and come knoking on your $58 door saying you are within 3miles of their established site... even if it was established 4 days ago. The new ppp club site, Fouth Street PPP'ers would get a RF footprint that plain $58 members need to heed. If the resident $58'ers hadnt formed a club, the 4th Street PPP'ers would get Muncies's blessing in getting that 3mile. So yes, you could easily get one or more spankin new PPP clubs knocking on your door telling you you can only fly on ch31 & you have to sign this agreement that you (and all other resident non-PPPclub flyers) get ch31 while the club keeps all other channels.
We saw this case discussed a while back,
that an established club goes out to shut down non-club use of freqs. Then it was outlaw PF using the freqs, but today we are worried about PPP doing it. Same problem, same non-club guys, different name hung on the non-club guys. I'll update some of the text for PPP, but imagine a group of PPP sending something like this out after an club tries to shut them down:
based on Draft Letter
Dear Officers of FremontFlyers, AMA Club #987654-
We are a group of modelers PPP members that fly our park fliers 3d FFF at FrysParkingLot, and Residential locations within a mile or so of your AMA club field. A person from our group was approached by a member of your club and told he could not fly there because it could cause interference resulting in loss of control of one your large, heavy models and possible cause serious injury to someone. We certainly would not want that to happen. Please take notice that we are currently using 72 mHz channels 16, 23, 36, 37 and 54, and advise your members not to use them. That should not cause you undue problems, as that leaves 45 channels to choose from, unless our group expands and needs more. When that happens we will let you know what additional channels we are using.
Have a good day,
<unsigned>
Some Informed, Safe and Responsible Park Fliers PPP members at Fry's
cc: Mr. Carl Maroney, AMA Insurance Department
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From my understanding of the freq sharing requirements,
If the Frys Guys join PPP, they cannot fly with 3miles of the existing club: AMA will tell them they cant fly at their house without a sharing plan. The AMA will also not allow them to form a PPP club at Frys without a sharing plan with the Fremont club, again 3mile rule. The only obligation the amaclub has to actually give them a freq to use is... uh.... hmmmm.
If those Frys Guys join, get the shaft like that, and quit AMA.... they then are just residents of the town next to the AMA club, and the AMA cant tell them not to fly. They have notified the club (& AMA) of a non-AMA flying site (Frys) that is within 3miles, and request the club come to the negotiation table to see which 25 channels the AMAclub gets & which 25channels the FrysOutlawClub gets. The only obligation the amaclub has to actually give them a freq to use is... Muncie wont let them fly with a known freq conflic with a flying site within 3miles. Muncie can stop the amaclub from flying, but do nothing to stop the ex-ppp FrysOutlaw from flying.
So the big plan of getting urban guys to join PPP so we can tell them not to fly at home & work, is not so good.
Once the urban PPP guys find out the rules on Site Seperation,
they will know they have more AMA rights as non-members in regard to seperation.
<edited for channel counts & format>
< Message edited by KidEpoxy -- 1/22/2008 7:01:54 PM >
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RE: AMA club site separation - 
I wasn't refering to the acknowledgement of a non-AMA group, but without saying so, I was thinking about any group that would move onto property within the 3 mile limit and start flying, well, I would not trust any "contract/agreement" they might make. A non-AMA PFers group, that would do that, has nothing to lose. The AMA group has everything to lose. 
