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RE: apache owners - 5/5/2011 2:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I thought of this today.  The Arrow Shark MC611 drive can spin either way.  So I do need one of each motor, been looking at motors today and prices.

Sorry Martno, Stig did not make the drivers cut this round.  scared Warehouse Hobbies guys will navigate my rig.

Today the Apache went into paint.  He said he could not get to it until the end of next week.  It is going to be pretty neat.  When I get the hull back I will start my own build thread so I don't trash this one.


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RE: apache owners - 5/5/2011 3:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I emailed Tony at Warehouse hobbies and asked if he can do a counter rotate engine.  His prices seemed ok.  I was looking at RCMK but did not find a price list?  Did I miss it or is there a vendor here in the states?



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the reason i mentioned inline twin is he had said he needed a gearbox to work with the drives and as far as going stagered i would go with RCMK s as you can get them in eather left or right hand rotation im not shure whart is involved in making the Arrow shark drive counter rotated might be able to just order them that way if you can get the drive already counter rotated that will open your build to any engine with out having to buy alot of extra parts take the counter rotated Zenoah from Bonzi think it list at $ 600.00 as compaired to a counter rotated RCMK at about $ 250..00



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RE: apache owners - 5/5/2011 11:31 AM   
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RE: apache owners - 5/6/2011 4:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks.  Looks like perfect engines!!  Drives have been ordered.  Dang that hurt.  Now to get someone to build me exhuast with dual outlets, just like the real thing.


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http://www.gizmomotors.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=618&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=56



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RE: apache owners - 5/7/2011 2:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		A over 50"Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.

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RE: apache owners - 5/14/2011 12:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey guys, im changing out my apache modded zen engine for a quickdraw 35.
does anyone know if quickdraw has the same engine mounts as the zen. they looked similar but maybe one of you guys know for sure.
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RE: apache owners - 5/14/2011 2:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your going to think I am crazy, but with this setup or twin setups either way I want quad exhaust.  Dual tips for each pipe.  I will probably have to have someone build this for me.  Know anyone that handy?  Thought about asking Tony at Ware House Hobbies, he said he would build a quad exhaust but I think this is to attach to a single pipe, I need to divide it up.  I like your setup.  Nice motor.




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A over 50"Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.



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RE: apache owners - 5/19/2011 4:33 PM   
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A over 50''Apache can easely take a RCMK-S520 twin engine. (best option IMHO)

Bolt a WD-200 gearbox (with or without clutch) to it.

Aaron Williams is building same kind of set-up.


WOW!
lots of power in a 50"
perfect

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RE: apache owners - 5/20/2011 10:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi all, I just finished my Apache build (well, actually it´s a Navaho, from Mart) hope you dont mind me showing my boat!

Twin motors and struts, single rudder.



Why would you mind? ... -well It is electric powered, only smoke it produces is proof of poof and I hope it never appears. (again )




Just returned from the maiden, here is a video





Had minor problems and too small props so it will be faster one day.



Build thread is viewable at OSE if interested to see what this has inside.






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RE: apache owners - 6/19/2011 11:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just wanted to show that electric boats can produce smoke also!

Enjoy!



Painted the boat also and it has 55mm Propshop props

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RE: apache owners - 6/19/2011 11:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps now is a good time to drop a gas motor in her!!

Sorry to see all the smoke - hope nothing too expensive

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RE: apache owners - 6/19/2011 1:14 PM   
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Perhaps now is a good time to drop a gas motor in her!!

Sorry to see all the smoke - hope nothing too expensive



Not yet ready to turn her ic, but getting closer...

It was only an esc that went poof, about 40$ worth of chinese engineering -but if that would have not been mounted on the stainless servo mount there would have been a large burned hole in her!

The smell is still unbeliveable, now where did I put that denat.alchohol... need to get that hull clean.

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RE: apache owners - 6/19/2011 1:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stick to your guns Pate ,i think plenty more to come from your setup,pitty about the esc but it proves that it was faulty all along with the hiccups you had with it before.Boat looked to be running well,would love to see a pic of you wearing that cam on your hat though lol.
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RE: apache owners - 8/4/2011 12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just wanted to post here also, my Navaho is finally working like planned, cheapo electric setup and over 40mph so far.

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New 910kv motors and new hk esc´s. No heat issues with 57mm props, 5517/3 propshops made the electrics hot, no more then 2 minute runs possible with them, but using the 57mm plastic ones I can drive the whole battery capacity.

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RE: apache owners - 8/4/2011 6:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice Pate,46 mph on a budget setup is pretty good she looks superb on the water too .I bet theres more to come from your setup before your done,but as is she runs perfect so well done .
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RE: apache owners - 8/4/2011 8:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		what are your run times ? what batteries are you running ? i have a nice lake that wont allow fuel so this might be an option my hull is 65" Apache

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RE: apache owners - 8/4/2011 8:36 PM   
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what are your run times ? what batteries are you running ? i have a nice lake that wont allow fuel so this might be an option my hull is 65'' Apache


Your 65" is going to need some power and with power comes the amps needed to run it
are you wanting twins or a single Castle 2028 on 10s or so?
I know of a few CC2028 builds on 10s 10,000mah getting runs of 3-4min

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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 2:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		ouch 3-4 min run times guess i ll keep this build gas and buy a small rtr to play at the small lake thanks for the info

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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 2:38 AM   
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ouch 3-4 min run times guess i ll keep this build gas and buy a small rtr to play at the small lake thanks for the info


yeah that's what's keeping me from building one of these big FE boats right now....
I may do one on 15s and 15,000mah

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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 2:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		i had a hobby shop owner tell me he would help me out with cost on motor and esc but think it would cost way to much for batteries would need at least be able to run for 10 -15 min mabe a real long power cable

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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 3:08 AM   
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i had a hobby shop owner tell me he would help me out with cost on motor and esc but think it would cost way to much for batteries would need at least be able to run for 10 -15 min mabe a real long power cable


yeah you wont see 10-15min runs on a Castle 2028 motor

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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 7:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Pates runtimes are between 8-10 mins on the 6s 5000 mah lipos,also he could go with two lipos on each motor if he wanted but then the weight goes up also.I think his runtimes are pretty good no doubt he has a spare set of lipos to carry on playing when the first set dies.
I love the coolness of having all that power(8hp) instantly when you hit the throttle,thats why im planning a similar setup on my Arrow hull very soon.
Pate,s hull was built by me and i kept the layup light using glass x carbon layup,hull weighed in at 8.5 lb if memory serves.
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RE: apache owners - 8/5/2011 1:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have not timed runs yet with these motors.

I´ll try to remember that when I drive it next(later today) I think that 5-8 minutes should be close to truth) -a bit slower speeds with smaller props and 6s2p I think it could be driven close to 15 minutes without heat issues .

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RE: apache owners - 8/14/2011 2:43 PM   
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RE: apache owners - 8/20/2011 4:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just got back from testing minor mods... no gps but decent speed. 7 minutes of driving and the motors do draw more juice then the t600´s I had in this b4. -lipos were warm and slightly puffed after 3+4 minute runs .After they cooled down they were fine. So I need to get another set of lipos so I can plug them to 2p config.

Motors, esc´s about 5o deg. C.

So I would say that 6-7minutes per pack is easy to do with this. -and if one would have more batteries to use the time would be better, temps were really low so another 7 minutes would be fine . -2p should give 10-14 minutes of fun so not too bad.

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