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Kirkland Nutcracker Pattern Plane - 1/25/2008 4:12:07 AM   
sceptreac


 

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Status: offline 		Does anyone have an information on the Kirkland Nutcracker?
I obtained a copy of the plan that was included in the Airborne Associates kit.
From that I am going to build the airplane but I would appreciate any further information.
The only photo I have is from an online scanned copy of a Steve Helms review of the Airborne Associates kit.
If anyone has a kit - an actual plane - or any info at all it will help me to get the model built properly.



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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/25/2008 2:40:34 PM   
burtona


 

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Status: offline 		I flew a couple or three of them back when they were available from Airborne. I probably have some pictures somewhere but no pieces left. They were really good planes for the time. The best of Kirklands IMO. George Hill (Airborne owner) & I experimented with a couple of them by lengthing the nose, changing the wing plan somewhat, anhedral stab, etc. but I'm not sure we improved the plane as Jim designed it. It was fun to try different stuff though.

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/25/2008 2:59:01 PM   
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Would it be possible to get a copy of the review
or maybe you can posted it here for all to see.

Thanks

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/25/2008 7:56:35 PM   
sceptreac


 

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Status: offline 		This is the article I found on the web.
As I mentioned a fellow SPA member sent me a copy of the Airborne plans.
I will have no trouble redesigning the plane from them as to planform and aerodynamics,
but to make it true to the original it would be nice to see a few photos.

Thanks for the replies - I hope the attachments posted - find out now...

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/25/2008 8:52:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I to flew a Nutcracker. Great looking plane for the day. I flew in the Missouri/Illinois area and never saw another.
I am with you, if anymore info is available, I'd like to see it also.

Jeff

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/26/2008 1:21:45 PM   
roncoleman


 

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Thanks for posting the review. I never had one but I've always liked
the looks of the Nutcracker. Would you know what year the articel was
written? Maybe you should change the subject of this thread or just add
the name, you might pull in someone who has more info/photos. I would
like to see more info/photos also.

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/26/2008 2:04:12 PM   
RFJ



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Would you know what year the articel was
written?


No, but the Airborne Associates kit for the Nutcracker, with foam wings and glass fuselage, was introduced in mid 1973 for $59.95.

Ray

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/26/2008 2:35:01 PM   
roncoleman


 

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Status: offline 		Ray that was a lot of money back in 73. Are there any pictures
in their ad you can post?

Ron

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/26/2008 3:00:57 PM   
RFJ



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Status: online 		Ron,

My info came from a Toledo show report and the only photograph was the little tiny one shown below. I know there are better shots around as I remember at the time thinking what an attractive design it was but no way could I afford it - as you say, big money!

I agree that sceptreac should change the thread title to attract more passing trade. Someone will have better shots.

Ray



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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/27/2008 1:14:47 PM   
sceptreac


 

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That is the best photo I have seen so far - thanks.

Craig

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/27/2008 5:42:10 PM   
nxtdoor


 

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Status: offline 		Anyone have any dimensions on the Nutcracker. I would love to scratchbuild one.

Jeff

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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/27/2008 11:34:06 PM   
kr9x



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Status: offline 		This is one of my projects for 2008. I have started on the plans but have a long way to go. I built one and flew it back in 73 or 74 but sold it to a better flyer, back when I lived near Chicago. My current project is the Kirkland A-6 Intruder.

Jon
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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/28/2008 1:48:12 AM   
Mad Man Marko-RCU


 

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Status: offline 		I remember a couple of guys in the R/C Propbusters club had Kirkland Nutcrackers back in the seventies. We used to have a pattern/scale contest in Waterford, CT in the seventies. Back then the contests in the northeast almost always had pattern combined with standoff scale. I remember a few guys using the Top Flite Mustang or Warhawk in both scale and A or B pattern.
Kirkland's Nutcracker was a good flying ship with the Tiger Bluehead or Webra Blackhead on a muffler. The local hobby shop man still has a couple of builtup Nutcrackers in his Perhaps I can talk him into taking one down and get some pics in the future.


Peace


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RE: Classic pattern flying - 1/28/2008 1:52:43 PM   
sceptreac


 

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Status: offline 		It is great to see the responses to this subject.
I will dig out my plans after I finish my move to Seattle and will provide them to anyone ( Jeff ) who would like a copy.
I move on March 5th so it will be after that.
It will really great if Mark O. can get some photos.
Better yet maybe the owner would sell one of his so I could duplicate it easier.

Craig

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RE: Kirkland Nutcracker Pattern Plane - 1/28/2008 5:10:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where can I get a set of plans for the Nutcracker?

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RE: Kirkland Nutcracker Pattern Plane - 1/28/2008 7:07:52 PM   
nxtdoor


 

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Status: offline 		craig, I will take you up on that offer of the plns when you get around to it!
I got to fly my Nutcracker one time at a contest before I planted it. I had won abest finish award with that plane too. It was all hand rubbed dope; was good looking plane.

Look forward to hearing from you after your move.

Jeff

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