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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/15/2008 11:57:34 PM   
sledge_78


 

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I am planning on painting a new F8F Bearcat I have just finished. I will be using a color to match that of the Blue Angels. It appeared that the Rustoleum "Royal Blue" was a good match. It is glow powered with fiberglase cover over entire airplane. I did put a lot of time and work into this so I would like to know if the Rustoleum will work and look good without fuel (hot or Cold) affecting the paint. What is the consensus, should I use the Rustoleum?

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 12:13:43 AM   
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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 12:24:07 AM   
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Status: online 		Hi Sledge, I will know the answers to you question in about a week. I am just finishing an Aeromaster Bipe that I painted with rust-Oleum. I painted it Sail Blue, Sunrise Red, and Gloss White. I also sprayed clear over the decals, but not the rest of the paint. I have tested raw glow fuel (5% nitro) on all the colors and the gloss clear. It does not seem to affect them after allowing them to cure for 4 or 5 weeks. I did not test them after a couple of weeks as I wanted to make sure the paint had lots of time to cure. Some folks here say 2 weeks is long enough. I also did one 1 minute test with the exhaust from my son's engine using 10% nitro fuel. It did not seem to do anything to the paint, but it was only one short test.
As I said earlier I sprayed the decals with gloss clear. I am not happy with this because the clear seems to not stick well to the rust-oleum colors. I can scrap it off as if it is not stuck to the paint. It wanted to lift when I removed the masking tape leaveing a built up line. I think I sprayed the clear on to thick which may be causing the problem. We will soon see if the exhaust fuel affects the gloss clear.
I also discovered that acetone can be used to clean off CA glue smears if the rust-oleum has cured for 4 or 5 weeks. I believe it would affect the rust-oleum if you continued to rub long enough or to hard.
I will be posting pictures on my Aeromaster as so as it is completely finished. I will also give a report on the rust-oleum paint after a few flights.

Hope this helps and also hope you are not in a big hurry,
Ralph White, Neoga, IL

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 1:44:08 AM   
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Well I guess I will see what happens here. I'm in the stage of priming and sanding so I do have some time to wait and see. I would be very interested in seeing your Bipe, Ralph. Although I admit I am a bit apprehensive. Once Im done with the primer (rustoleum by the way) it will be decision time. Buzzard what paint would you recommend as an alternative?

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 1:51:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sledge, I'm an old dope fiend. However, the fumes are a real pain, so I'm thinking seriously about Nelson water based for next time. People also seem to think Flecto Varathane is sufficiently fuel proof. It can be used to fuel proof some paints. Do a search and you'll find some interesting ideas that I won't try to tell you because I haven't tried them.

Clear Rustoleum seemed even less fuel proof than the colored, so you can't spray it on top and expect it to improve anything. But who knows? The paint doesn't say what it is, and they probably vary the formula. That may account for why it's worked for some and not others. Good luck. I'd check out Nelson. Jim

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 3:04:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've used Rustoleum for years with no problems. But, I switched to Nelson's a couple of years ago for two reasons. One, the Rustoleum spray pattern was just too small for large planes. Two, Nelson's paint dries almost instantly. No cureing time. Nelson's is excellent paint, but very sensitive to spray pressures. (Search the threads). Also, beware. Nelson's paint does not dry to a high gloss like Rustoleum. But, after about an hour you can sand it like a hard shelled primer. Almost never runs, but if it does let it dry about an hour and it sands out smooth as glass. Also, Nelson's can be spot patched and will blend into the base coat like no other paint I've ever seen. Can't do any of that with Rustoleum.

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/16/2008 4:26:01 AM   
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I read the web site for Nelson's Paint and it does seem very interesting. Fuel proof etc. I sent them a note and asked some quesions. Such as how much paint is needed for a 60" model, which primer to use, and the right spray equipment and pressure. Also, if I can apply their primer over one aileron I have already primed with Rustoleum primer. Maybe Nelsons paint is the option with out any doubts involving fuel proofing etc.

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 5/29/2008 6:51:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rustoleum Gloss White - is this a good match for Monokote Jet White?

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 6/3/2008 1:58:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		just a heads up on nelson paint. i,ve used it a few times now. it takes a while to get the spraying just right, a little learning curve. my main problem, his the colors are not excact matches. the white and true red are very close but the blues were not acceptable to me. when i go from monokote the a fiberglass cowl, i dont want it to jump out. the royal blue and insigina blue did.

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 6/3/2008 1:59:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		it should have come out 'from monokote fuse to the fiberglass cowl"

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RE: Rust-Oleum? - 6/22/2008 6:15:56 AM   
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