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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/28/2008 4:36:55 AM

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I am no expert, but after doing a little research I settled on the Futaba S3152.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSBX0

I also have the 6EX and decided to take advantage of the good offer to upgrade to the 7C Transmitter because the package comes with four S3152 servos, the receiver, battery, and the 7C for only 309. after the 20 dollar off deal currently running at Tower.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSBX0

For the extra 100 bucks I get a better transmitter, and I can probably sell the 6EX and break even.

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/28/2008 4:46:46 AM

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Hey men, sorry to interupt the conversation, but I have a quick question about servo's. All I have is a 6EX Futaba Radio and I'm wondering what Futaba servo's and Reciever you all would recomend for the Pulse that would match what H-9 sugested. This is my first ARF and this is where I'm stuck at. Thanks!

I too use a 6EXA with a 168DF receiver. Standard Futaba S3004 servos work the throttle and ailerons (each one has its' own dedicated servo) and HD S3010 servos are on the rudder and Elevator because the rudder is the most powerful control surface on the plane and the elevator only has the one servo to drive it. This set up works fine for me, but then again, I'm not trying to do 3D with this light weight sport airplane.

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/31/2008 12:04:09 AM

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Hey guys, who out there is running an OS 61 FX? I have a new one that was sitting around and I opted to use it. Today I put the assembled plane on a CG stand and it went on it's nose like it had a concrete block on the nose. If you moved your batteries, how did you mount them up? Or did you just add weight to the tail? I'm open to all suggestions.

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/31/2008 2:09:37 AM

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You should be able to balance it out with the battery pack. I have a Saito 100 with muffler @ 20.9 ounces on mine and it balanced perfectly minus the five cell 2600mah battery pack. Easy enough, I just put the pack at the COG. Your engine weighs 23.6 with the muffler. I would think a five cell pack placed towards the back of the wing opening in the fuselage should do it.

Bob

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/31/2008 4:58:05 AM

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I have been looking at this plane, and after reading all the posts have decided to get it next. I have an Os 91 fx that needs a home. It is just slightly heavier that the 75 ax.
What do you think of this plane and motor combo??

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/31/2008 6:17:25 AM

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just one thing that you must do before fitting the engine to the Pulse is to make sure you add more epoxy around the inner side of the front bulkhead / engine mount and seal all this area so its fuel proof. a guy in our club had this bulkhead come very loose due to insufficient glue and sealing.

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 5/31/2008 5:23:32 PM

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My elevator had a tiny misalignment also. Mine was about 3/32". Took about two minutes with a heat gun to fix it.

Bob

After putting the ARF together, I noticed a misalignment in my elevator as well. Can someone describe the process Bob quoted to fix in a little more detail. This is only my second ARF so I am quite a beginner at this.

Thanks!

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/1/2008 11:43:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spoofer
After putting the ARF together, I noticed a misalignment in my elevator as well. Can someone describe the process Bob quoted to fix in a little more detail. This is only my second ARF so I am quite a beginner at this.

Thanks!

First you will need a couple of tools. A sealing iron and a heat gun. A hair dryer will work for a heat gun. The sealing iron is used to smooth out the wrinkles in the covering of a model. Most ARF's have a few wrinkles in the covering when they are new. The heat gun does the same job but covers a broader area quicker.

Sealing iron
Heat gun

To remove the twist in an elevator twist the offending piece by hand in the opposite direction of the natural twist. Twist the piece slightly more in the opposite direction of the natural twist. Hold the piece in the opposite twist position and apply heat with the heat gun until all the wrinkles are gone that appeared when you applied opposite twist. You may have to play with this a bit to get the piece to stay in the desired position. Twisting, bending and heating until the piece stays in the desired position when cool. Be careful with the heat gun as it can melt right through the covering. It does not take long to acquire the proper feel for using the iron and gun to get professional results.

Bob

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/10/2008 8:11:57 AM

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Can you fit a decent sized 4 stroke in this plane inverted?

All the pics I see of this plane the engine is hanging off the side, not to pretty.

I'd be tempted if I could mount inverted with a Saito 1.00

Very nice plane!

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/10/2008 12:08:12 PM

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I considered mounting my Saito 100 inverted when I was assembling my Pulse XT 60. Because of the extra time involved I went with the standard upright mount to be able to get into the air quicker. Besides, I rather liked the looks of that shiny new 100 sticking out the top of the cowl. Kind of like a blower sticking out of the hood on a muscle car. Although I have to admit having that sleek looking cowl smooth on top appealed to me also.

To mount the engine inverted looked like I was going to have to remove all the firewall blind nuts and plug all the resulting holes. Then drill and remount the blind nuts in the proper position for the inverted mount to maintain the proper thrust line.

My XT 60 has been through a lot in the short time I have been flying it. The maiden and numerous subsequent flights were relaxing and uneventful. As the new Saito 100 broke in it required tweaking the high and low speed mixture screws. Two weeks ago I took the plane from the flight line to my table and made a very minor adjustment to the low speed screw to get a better low idle. The plane would sometimes not sit still on the runway and I wanted to be able to bring the plane to a standstill without killing the engine. Perfect adjustment, the plane would not even roll forward on the table while at an idle.

Back to the flight line I go with my transmitter hanging on my hip from my new home made belt clip / transmitter holder. I stooped down and set the plane down. Good, not a hint of wanting to roll forward so I let go and start to stand up. My JR 9303 got bumped somehow and falls to the ground while I am halfway upright. The transmitter falls face down and goes full throttle. That Saito 100 was running perfect and instantly went full bore with the plane lurching forward. I lunged at the plane and just brushed the tail causing the plane to do a half circle and head right for the low fence separating the flight line from the pit area. The landing gear was caught by the fence bottom rail like an arresting cable on an aircraft carrier deck. The thrust from the Saito 100 had enough power to rip the landing gear off and snap the fueslage in half right at the front of the wing.

At least the engine choked and died. Some one hundred odd dollars later my Pulse is back in the air flying like new again. Fuselage, prop and a fiberglass repair to one wheel pant.

Day before yesterday while going through some tail slide practice maneuvers I thought the Pulse was not acting quite right and brought her down to have a look. Yikes ! The right elevator was almost dangling. It looks like the hinges on that side were never CA'd. I am guessing that the epoxy on the elevator torque rod and friction from tight hinge slots was the only thing holding that elevator half on the entire time. I had given the control surfaces a good tug while building the plane and obviously did not catch that one. The hinges and hinge slots are oil soaked now so I ordered an new horizontal stab instead of trying to fix the original.

Another observation is the painted cowl and wheel pants do not like to be wiped with a solvent. The paint turns sticky and dulls slightly. I wiped my cowl with denatured alcohol to clean all the oil from the rich settings while breaking in the Saito 100 and noticed the tacky feeling and dulling finish. The wheel pants are the same. Seems the paint should be of a type that can withstand mild solvents for something like a cowl on a glow engine plane.

Bob

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/10/2008 1:02:37 PM

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Hey,
Thanks Bayward, very interesting few details there, will watch out for the tail feathers!

I just stepped in the door with mine

Any tips, any other things regarding the build I should be aware of?

CG OK as stated in the manual? Ya know, any little quirks on take off, maybe pulls left or whatever?

Any little bit of info would be awesome.

Starting building tomorrow with a Saito 1.00 to put in the nose

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/10/2008 2:04:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Axel40
Any tips, any other things regarding the build I should be aware of?

CG OK as stated in the manual? Ya know, any little quirks on take off, maybe pulls left or whatever?

Any little bit of info would be awesome.

I put my CG in the middle of the specified range and it works perfect. My original build flew perfect on its maiden. Not even one click of trim. She tracked straight down the center of the runway. Lifted her tail and stayed straight and steady until I gave her a tiny bit of up elevator. She then lifted up into the air gracefully and gently and straight. Straight that is until I was running out of room and put her into an easy climbing left bank. Super stable and nice flyer.

Watch out for the fuel tank vibrating backwards while in flight. This rearward movement causes the hatch to fly off in flight. Anchor the fuel tank with a square of balsa behind it and put a piece of tape on the hatch. Or do as another poster did and use a rubber band to hold the hatch from inside the fuselage. You can accomplish this through the wing opening in the bottom of the fuselage.

I lost one cowl bolt and the other three loosened on my maiden. A tiny touch of blue Loctite on each bolt has solved that problem.

Bob

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RE: *New Hanger 9 Pulse XT 60* - 6/11/2008 1:56:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: Axel40

Can you fit a decent sized 4 stroke in this plane inverted?

All the pics I see of this plane the engine is hanging off the side, not to pretty.

I'd be tempted if I could mount inverted with a Saito 1.00

Very nice plane!

I mounted mine sideways (the one in the pictures) for a couple of reasons. First I liked the way it looked as opposed to sitting straight up as called for by the manufacturer (beauty is in the eye of the beholder), and secondly because it places the fuel draw from tank to carb. in a more level plain for better engine performance. You could mount it inverted but this would have the fuel draw well below the tank center and might cause flooding or worse, hydraulic lock when starting. As a general rule I have found that four stroke glow engines don't like to be inverted. There is also a greater risk of damage to the engine (push rods and tubes) because of the cylinder being closer to Tera Firma. Having said that, there is always more than one way to skin a cat, so why not give it go and try it inverted. This is a great flying airplane and you will like it I'm sure.

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