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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 7/28/2009 8:05 PM   
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I bought my 1st R/C plane , a Midwest Tri Squire from Duke Fox's hobby shop in Ft. Smith, Ar in 1970. I also bought an EK "little red brick" 3 channel radio and a plain bearing .15 Fox R/C engine. That little engine was a screamer with Duke's missle mist. After learning to fly with it, I bought another one for relaxed flying and built it for looks. I flew that one for years. Finally traded it off at a swap meet and have regretted it ever since. Wish Midwest had never quit building them, a great little plane and excellent trainer.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 7/31/2009 6:49 AM   
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Hi

The Tri Squire was my second r/c plane way back when.

The Midwes Esquire was my first for r/c with a Vec0 19 c/l engine, Kraft Single channel, Bonner Escapement. I think that plane ende up in a tree somewhere hehe

Anyway the Trisquire had an OS 15 r/c engine and a Citizenship 3 channel Proportional and I had a great deal of fun with that plane as I was able to solo on that plane and all the good stuff that comes with being able to fly and rc plane. It was great to be able to taxi it, take off, fly it around and land and bring it home in one piece.

I still have plans for the Tri Squire and will scratch build one this coming winter and probably set it up using electric power.

I also have another Esquire ready to go.

Thw Midwest stuff was really good and also have had their Sky Squire and still have plans for it as well.

Sometimes the simple straight forward designs were and still are the most fun

Anyway take care and have fun-even after all these years it still is a great hobby (over 40 years-time sure goes by).

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 1:17 AM   
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Nice plane Larry. Did you add some extra area to the rudder?

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 12:42 PM   
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Thanks for asking. It has jarred my memory and I now remember changing the tail-feathers to make the airplane more responsive as suggested by my trainer back then. Once I enlarged the rudder, it flew a lot more responsive and stable. It definitely changed the tail moment. If you had not noticed, I may have never remembered making the change.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 4:11 PM   
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Thanks for asking. It has jarred my memory and I now remember changing the tail-feathers to make the airplane more responsive as suggested by my trainer back then. Once I enlarged the rudder, it flew a lot more responsive and stable. It definitely changed the tail moment. If you had not noticed, I may have never remembered making the change.

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The Tri Squire was popular in Class I. The rudder only guys installed a larger rudder, removed one rib from each wing panel and installed a hot .35.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 4:22 PM   
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The Tri Squire was popular in Class I. The rudder only guys installed a larger rudder, removed one rib from each wing panel and installed a hot .35.

Wow, a 35. I have one for class II with a .15 and it is rather hot, I can't imagine RO with a 35 and a shorter wing.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 7:38 PM   
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ACS,

What combination of electric motor, ESC, and batteries are you using? I've decided to go with a non slimer for my Tsquire.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 11:06 PM   
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Hey Dan,

I really like your color scheme on your Tri-Squire, I just might steal it! (the color scheme that is)

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/15/2009 11:14 PM   
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Hey Dan,

I really like your color scheme on your Tri-Squire, I just might steal it! (the color scheme that is)

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No problem, use it as you like. I am not sure I was the first to do so. I am not good at artistic design, so I have used that scheme for years. Also it is quick to put on. Usually when I get to the trim stage, I am ready to fly it and do not want to spend a lot of time dolling it up.

Most all of the planes I build are yellow. I was asked why I favored yellow. I say "First, I like the color and second the wife doesn't know I have another plane." All yellow planes look a like to the disinterested.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/16/2009 12:19 AM   
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Hello Dan,

When I was stationed in Berlin Germany 1977-1981 while active duty with the Air Force, We had an R/C Club at Tempelhof Central Airport called the "The Flying Bears." Some German citizens were allowed to be sponsored on Tempelhof Central Airport. I had a German friend named Rolf Stein. All of his planes were yellow and black. One day I asked him why he always chose yellow and black and no other colors and his response was that he was color blind and the contrast of the two colors made it easier to see against the often grey skies of Berlin.

Well, I wasn't sure if he was telling me the truth or just had a good deal on black and yellow shrink covering. Well I found out when Rolf and I took a trip to Western Germany to fly R/C gliders on Mount Wasserkuppe (this is the place where a man actually was flying around before the Wright Brothers. Engineer Otto Lilienthal, the father of aviation and of hang gliding. Germany, 1895).

It was night, Rolf was driving and we were passing through a small town when all of sudden Rolf said, "Larry, quick, what color is the stop light ahead?" During the day he could tell which light was on because he could tell what position the light was lit up in relation to the other two (top, center or bottom), but at night he couldn't see the other two unlit lights. I no longer had my doubts after that! I managed to acquire several of Rolf Stein's planes and all of them were black and yellow.

Also, by this time I no longer had my Tri-Squire (I sold it and never crashed it) but I got another plane very similar called the "Minnie Mambo". That would call for another story later.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 10/16/2009 12:32 AM   
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There were four versions of the Mambo and "Minnie Mambo" was the third one.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/17/2010 7:17 AM   
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Still here and after more than 2 years I am finally getting back to the Tri Squire. Lot's of life has happened and until a few months ago I was mostly away from the hobby. I have done a little more on the TS recently and tonight I stripped it all down to get ready for covering. Hope everyone is still around... I'd love to see some shots of your finished builds.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/17/2010 9:32 AM   
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Nostalgia just struck. The Tri-Squire was the last plane I built before going into the AF. Powered by a Fox .19 RC. Actually, that engine may not have been recognizeable as an RC, since it had a rotary valve in the exhaust stack. Did work pretty well, as long as the motor control escapement didn't hang up. I used a cascaded compound Bonner Varicomp pair. Actually got 2 flights, till I got hit by something that was too common for me. Forgot to wind the rudder rubber. I think I still have the planes.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/17/2010 4:54 PM   
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Anyone have a scan of the TS plans they could post?

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/17/2010 6:52 PM   
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No plans are here but some pictures http://photobucket.com/VRCS
If you don't have success find a plan visit http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/vrcs
This is the Vintage R/C site

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/18/2010 1:40 AM   
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Here is the Lil Tri Squire and the Minnie Mambo mentiond earlier:
http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/Minnie%20Mambo-GeneRock.pdf
http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/Lil%20Tri%20Squire.pdf

Gene Rock did the cad on the Mambo, I did the Lil Tri Squire

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/18/2010 2:17 AM   
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Awesome! Thanks for posting!

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/18/2010 3:56 AM   
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Thanks very much Dave, I can just enlarge the Li'l TS to 52 inch span and adjust the structure.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/18/2010 6:24 AM   
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Lawdy, this topic just reminded me I have a partially built Li'l Tri Squire setting in the garage. Somebody gave it to me years ago. It has a small bit of hangar rash on the back of the fuse. Have to put it on my to-do list.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/19/2010 6:09 AM   
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Here's mine, it was a freebie from an estate. Got it with the OS .20 installed and Kraft KPS 14 servos installed. It now has a Kraft three channel Sport Series radio with Futaba four channel receiver and Hitec servos. I triedk a first flight the other night but the wheels were a bit too small for the grass. I replaced the wheels and will try again soon.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/20/2010 4:25 AM   
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Nice looking slimer!

Great news! (for me)
This evening I FINALLY started the covering process!

I am still covering in Thermal Span and did the first 2 coats of Nitrate on the airframe this evening. Just a light sanding and I can get some skin on her this weekend. Hopefully I'll remember to get some pics along the way.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/20/2010 5:03 AM   
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Hi,

The old man checks in. The Tri-squire was my third airplane and was built in (I think ) 1961 or 1962. Whatever year it first came out. It was also my first plane with a reed radio. It had a non throttled .15 engine. The thing that I remember most is that I could pull up elevator
into a half loop, and then by holding full down I could fly around inverted. I also remember that one of Walt Schroeder's sons won first place in rudder only with a Tri-squire in the early 60's. (Schroeder was the editor of M.A.N. at the time.)

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/20/2010 5:47 AM   
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I sanded the TS and took a few pics before calling it a night... next step is Thermal Span! Here is a pic of everything as of now. I went ahead and took a few close-in shots of the new battery hatch and cowl. I am excited to be back on this after more than 2 years, can't wait to get her in the air.

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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/20/2010 2:45 PM   
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Love the hatch under the nose. I have to do that to mine. I noticed you added a new firewall to accommodate the shorter electric motor too.
Looks very nice.


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RE: Midwest Tri-Squire - 8/20/2010 7:20 PM   
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ACS,
What do you use the Kilz for? I am assuming it's to fill up the fabric
weave. I'm not sure I have heard of that technique.
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