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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 1/17/2012 5:25 PM   
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Hello Pete

Thanks for the info. Yeah! I know my chances are pretty slim on getting one now at this time. I could kick myself for not picking up the H9 Fokker from my LHS back a couple of months ago. I heard that the guy who did buy it, crashed it on the second flight from battery failure. Too bad.

There is a swap meet coming up in March down in Perry Ga. that is HUGE!!! I might try to see if I can find one there. Untill then I'll keep my ad up on the Wanted section of RCU And keep my fingers crossed.

But you have a good point about contacting H9 and asking them to bring back the DVII. I think I'll do just that from time to time to see what happends.

The one thing that really bugs me about Hangar 9. They just drop a great plane for no reason. Some they do bring back for a short run like the P-47 1.50 size. They brought that ARF back after many folks asked for it back. Now they are coming out with another version of the P-47.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 1/17/2012 5:28 PM   
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No dought, the other guys at my field will want one. IF so I will put them on to yours if you still have it.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 1/18/2012 11:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now you guys can understand I'm not giving mine up ever! So many people want one now, that has now become a collectors item. The other night my wife looked up at the ceiling and asked, " If you kick the bucket, and if I had to sell your planes, how much should I get for them?" I answered," $1,000 for the Dr1 and $900 for the DVII. But there's a catch, I plan on having my ashes in the D7."

Hmmm, I wonder why she asked that question. I'd better sleep with one eye open for now on.

I've been talking to a nice guy who has a Hanger 9 Fokker D7 that I met in my GP Fokker Dr1 rebuild thread. He has both planes like I do and I linked this build thread to him so he can join our little chat and learn a few tricks. His name is Bill and he likes to collect the classic old glow engines like I do.


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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 1/19/2012 11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Pete,

I took the D-VII fuselage outside yesterday and fired up the old OS-FS .90! It was a bit nippy outside and it took a bit of coaxing, but the beast finally came to life!!! The blue tatone tuned pipe tubeing I ran off of the exhaust elbow worked....
I was worried that it would melt, no worries, the total length of the tubeing is about 12" and even though there's no muffler it ran very quiet. I also re-heat-shrunk the covering on the wings, the top wing seems kinda of fragile, what happened to center section sheeting??? I hope to put the whole works together to see what need to be done to ballance it on both axis.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 1/20/2012 1:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Bill, don't be fooled, the top wing is stronger than you think. Matter in fact it is my opinion that the Hanger 9 Fokker DVII is a pretty tough bird. I nosed over twice in tall grass and there is no evidence that I had ever done so. The first time was because I lost the prop and had to "dead stick" in from low altitude. The second time I came in too hot and ran out of runway landing in a crosswind into tall grass.

I got my O.S.FS.91 Surpass II yesterday morning from E-bay. The exaust valve was stuck open, but with a little cleaning and soaking it in after-run oil and lightly tapping the top of the rocker arm with a plastic handled screw driver, it became unsiezed and in working order. I pulled off the cam cover and gunk, grime and a little rust residue came out, so I filled the whole engine with after-run and let it soak in after cleaning out what I could. I feel and hear no grit when I turn the crankshaft so the bearings are sound. Also there's no play in the crank.

It looks like the engine sat for many years and it doesn't look as if it was used much. Carb looks and feels good, but I did have to replace the high end needle valve spring and right now, I'm in the middle of sanding down with different grit and polishing the muffler. I put in a "F" glow plug in it, the previous owner had a A3 in it. Why? Don't ask.

The engine has massive compression and kick turning it by hand after I adjusted the valves. I think it's going to fire up. Not bad for $140.00! I lucked out this time, but even if it didn't run it still would have been worth that in parts I think. The engine was discontinued a while back, I'm glad Tower Hobbies still sells most discontinued O.S. engine parts.

Glad you got your engine to work in you DVII, just make sure your exhaust or engine doesn't hit the fiberglass and you'll be OK.


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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 3/1/2012 12:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Congrats to our Oberst who's 2 classic planes are featured in the latest MA! Good for you, Pete!

Bill, I have to agree with Pete regarding the strength of the D 7, and for that matter, the Sopwith Camel too. My D 7 has had extreme engine problems with the highly touted Evolution engine (boat anchor) resulting in many dead stick landings and one outright crash in which the plane bounced off the ground into the air, did a cartwheel in mid air and banged back into the ground, and sustained only minor damage. As for the Camel, the scale narrow landing gear means that landings usually result in nose overs without damage. Then there was the time I flew it into a fence. The result of that little event was a single wing panel requiring repair or replacement. I opted to replace, but still have the damaged wing so one day if I get motivated, I can fix it.
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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 3/1/2012 4:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Rick,

I'd like to also congradulate Pete on having his pride and joys in MA!!! Way to Go Pete!!!
I guess I will soon find out for myself just how tough the D-VII is once the weather gets a little better.
It's been windy here lately and now we are getting dumped on with rain........better than shoveling Snow.
I'm not real happy with the cowl fit on the D-VII, but I finally got it on, just not sure if the top of the valve cover on the OS is touching the bottom of the cowl, it's close.
I will hold off attaching the D-VII's exhaust on top of the cowl, that way if the OS .90 melts any of the cowl I'll know where I need to do a little dremel work!
Rick it was kinda funny about your mention of a certain boat anchor, there was an ad right above your post for the very same!!!

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 3/1/2012 11:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thank you all for your kind words. It was nice to spend most of that day with my club president and Dave Mathewson when the picture was taken. Matter in fact Mr. Mathewson is giving me his personal AMA District II patch to add on to my flight jacket. It's very rare and it means a lot to me! Again I feel that it was a dumb move on Hanger 9's part to discontuinue this very nice aircraft, and if people continue to preasure Horizon, they might bring it back- one can only hope.

In a few weeks I'll be doing a build and small bash at RCG with the Seagull Gee Bee Z, so if anyone is interested it will be in the Scale thread in about 2 weeks. Why I'm not doing it here is because RCU is having so many issues with the server, and many of the things I post don't show up. Plus a few moderators have something stuck up their behinds and think they are Gods gift to modelers. However they can't fix or reset a server, at the same time hinder communication when ever someone says something they don't agree with. But that's OK, I have ways to communicate out of RCU's control to everyone that is in here, plus I have personal emails of other members.

Everyone has my email in this months issue of MA, so feel free to write me. I won't be posting much here anymore because of the issues I have with 2 of the moderators and Nathan who lets moderators do what ever they want to do- basicly all 3 are butt buddies. So, I had to use my old avitar in order for you all to see this post.

Everyone take care of yourselves, and hope to meet some of you at a event one day. And if you come up to the Syracuse Thunderbirds Aero Radio Sociaty in Central NY, feel free to ask for me.

Again, I am so lucky to have my planes on page 82. I guess I have to "hanger queen" the planes now? Marty at Redneck R/C- Fulton, NY, Dave Mathewson, Chuck and another friend in my club- Dave said it would be bad luck to fly them since they made the magazine and they are begging me to keep them on my ceiling safe and sound. If that's the case, I'll have to ask people when they take pictures at a show of my planes not to publish them in any magazine for now on. Because if that keeps up, I'm not going to have a plane to fly!

Keep the wings level!


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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 4/9/2012 11:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Guys
Just asking to see what RPM's your getting from your Saito .82 engines. I'm finished mine with a (Zinger wood 14X8 prop) and getting 7500 rpm at full throttle. The Saito manual shows top end to be 11,000 rpm. I know that if I change to a 13x7 I'll gain a little more rpm but will be far from 11,000 rpm.

What kind of rpm readings are you all getting from for saito 4/stroke enighes.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 4/10/2012 1:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sbrackets, I would try a 14x5. I have good luck running that on my magnum 70. It will allow the rpm to come up without pulling the plane too fast. Here's a link to a video of mine flying with that combo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69x925ZJaqQ&feature=channel

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/1/2012 6:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi I am looking at the Hanger9 DV11 to But only have a Saito72, dose not have the same power as the OS70 (I think) that's right? would the saito 72 be ok for scale flying the Fokker DVll ? Cheers & beers witooa.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/1/2012 11:43 AM   
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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/1/2012 2:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I plan on making my maiden flight sooooon. Gonna balance her tonight and adjust the throws in the radio per the manual. Running a Saito .82 4/stroke GK. She sure is a beauty. Will get video of the maiden flight and i will post a link here on the group. So stay tuned.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/2/2012 1:44 AM   
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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/25/2012 12:26 PM   
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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/25/2012 5:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good luck! It's a nice flying plane and looks great in the air. Just remember on landing to keep flying it until it's completely stopped. I've had several landings when I got caught up in watching it that before I knew it there it went over on it's back! "Scale Landing" is a familiar phrase from the peanut gallery watching!

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/25/2012 7:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Will do Jaybird. Thanks for the advise. The weather is still holding up, so it 's looking like a GO!! for launch.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/25/2012 8:02 PM   
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All the details look great, guys. Keep the ideas coming!

Flew this morning for our club camera/video guy and he sent some nice shots and a video is at the KVMA website at the bottom of the 2008 video page under the ''Fall'' section.

http://www.modelaviators.org/2008/Videos/2008Videos.htm

or here...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=928856


Great flying plane. I'm having more frequent landing issues since I increased the elevator up travel so it has to be used with judgment and skill..two things I lack!

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A video of mine can be found at the links above.

Let us know how it goes!

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 1:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Jaybird

Nice video you have of yours, I on the other hand have nice video too!!! Yes my maiden when off without a hitch. No wind to speak of and so all the conditions were right for a maiden flight.

I will edit the video hopefully today and will post it here for you guys to see. The flight was fun, just had to adjust my down trim three clicks, and left trim about 5 or 6 clicks. The takeoff was easy and so was the landing. She's really pretty in the air. That blue really shows up good.

Stay tuned for the video.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 1:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congratulations on a successful maiden, Jim. I find the white square on the top wing to be the best identifying piece of covering for orientation.

Looking forward to your video as well!

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 4:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Video is up!
Hope you all like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfS7fxRYMcw

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 5:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		awesome i have been watching all your post and it reminded me of my build these guys are awesome what a journey huh and this bird is awesome in the sky congrats


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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Terrific! Thanks for sharing.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/26/2012 10:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Guys! I also have some still shots that I was going to upload here as well, but RCU must be having server problems again. Photos won't upload at this time. Might try later.

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RE: Hangar 9 Fokker DVII - 5/27/2012 12:52 PM   
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