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Mark Dennis -> New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/15/2008 6:27:03 AM)

A few days ago We released our new 35cc Extra 260. Now we would like to let you in on a COMPLETLY new desighn from Aeroworks. Our new 35cc Extra 300 QB! This airplanes flys incredibley well and is THE smoothest plane in its size I have ever flown.

It is the same QB quality you have come to expect from Aeroworks in a smaller more affordable package. It is designed around the 35-45cc size gas engines or large glow engines and includes carbon wing and stab tubes along with the full QB hardware package.

We are very excited to add this new plane to our hanger and hope many of you will add one to yours!

We would like to thank Dave Michael for the use of his scheme.

The Videos and manual are now online, you can check them out here:New Extra 300 QB




ottrod -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/15/2008 12:31:18 PM)

SWEET!!!

I have the 90-120 Yak, and am very pleased with it.....this Extra would make a fne addition to the hangar! I really like the scheme on this one!!

Keith



Efishensea -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/15/2008 9:42:15 PM)

This Thing Has DA-50 Written all over it.



bemeson -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/15/2008 11:06:20 PM)

Mark when you tested the plane was it with a 46 Birelli motor.



Mark Dennis -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/15/2008 11:36:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bemeson

Mark when you tested the plane was it with a 46 Birelli motor.


Yes we flew it with the 46. The power was great even at this altitude



tulz161 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/20/2008 6:39:05 PM)

Would a 50cc be way over kill for this plane? It sure would give a few more options.

Also what do you all think of using a smartfly powersystem in it? Two rx batteries for a little more reassurance. But at the cost of weight.



FrankFuss -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/20/2008 8:58:46 PM)

At this altitude (Denver, CO) do you think that a YS 170-DZ would be a good combination with this airplane? Also, since this engine is not very heavy, would it balance without adding much extra weight? Thanks.

Frank



Mark Dennis -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/20/2008 10:37:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tulz161

Would a 50cc be way over kill for this plane? It sure would give a few more options.

Also what do you all think of using a smartfly powersystem in it? Two rx batteries for a little more reassurance. But at the cost of weight.


A 50cc is way overkill on this plane. We recomend against it. A power system of some sort is not needed on this plane since you want to keep it as light as possible.



Mark Dennis -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/20/2008 10:38:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FrankFuss

At this altitude (Denver, CO) do you think that a YS 170-DZ would be a good combination with this airplane? Also, since this engine is not very heavy, would it balance without adding much extra weight? Thanks.

Frank


I'm not familiar enough with the YS to know for sure but I think it would give good sport performance. Balance may be an issue however.



tulz161 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/21/2008 12:03:26 AM)

Thanks Mark. What prop did u guys use on the 46?



MV99 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/27/2008 3:37:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Dennis


quote:

ORIGINAL: FrankFuss

At this altitude (Denver, CO) do you think that a YS 170-DZ would be a good combination with this airplane? Also, since this engine is not very heavy, would it balance without adding much extra weight? Thanks.

Frank


I'm not familiar enough with the YS to know for sure but I think it would give good sport performance. Balance may be an issue however.


Hi Mark,

** First of all, what a beautiful Extra 300S and it looks so attractive to me. Hope my wife will allow me to add one more great plane from Aero Works...:-). I am actually building the QB Yak54 90-120 size at the moment.

** My new QB Yak54 (72" wing span) will go with YS 160DZ. The dry weight should be between 10.5 to 11 lbs. The thrust of YS 160DZ is about 18-20 lbs depends on nitro%. This combination should give this Yak all the power for 3D. My other YS 160DZ (on Chip Hyde Cap-X) runs @ 9000 with APC 18x8W. I am still set a little rich at 1 and 3/4 turn out at HS setting because I do not want to go over 9000.

** I am still search for a better prop than APC 18x8W to allow me lean it a bit more to get the full potential out from this super engine. I prefer set the top end RPM somewhere around 8600. I did tried APC 19x8W and got 8100 and I was told it would put too much load on 160DZ if I do 3D with this setting.

** Raw Powerwise, YS 170DZ is about only 3-4% (which is about 200 more RPM for the same prop) but most of improvement is the mid range torque.

** I flew DP Ultimate with 160DZ (dry weight around 12 lbs) and she performed quite well in 3D flying. My Cap-X also has 160DZ as power source but the dry weight is 14.25 lbs because I have to add 9 oz lead and 2nd battery (another 4.5 oz) at nose to balance the CG........it is really a ouch for me...:-). The Cap-X can do quite a few 3D manuvers but she gets out of hovering with much less authority than what I prefer and the reserve power is limited.

** However, I think YS 170DZ together with this pretty QB extra will make her a good but probably not wildly great 3D performer. It should still be better in 3D than my Cap-X because larger wing area @ 1200 sq inch vs 1050 sq inch of Cap-X assuming with same dry weight (14.25 lbs).

Mitch




FrankFuss -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/27/2008 8:52:27 PM)

Thanks Mitch for the reply. It sounds like the YS 170DZ would be enough power for my purposes; however I would hate to have to add a bunch of lead to get it to balance. If it could be built less than 14 lbs., then I might have to consider it since these new Aeroworks 35cc models are great looking and are not too large to transport with my car.

Frank



MV99 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (2/28/2008 3:00:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FrankFuss

Thanks Mitch for the reply. It sounds like the YS 170DZ would be enough power for my purposes; however I would hate to have to add a bunch of lead to get it to balance. If it could be built less than 14 lbs., then I might have to consider it since these new Aeroworks 35cc models are great looking and are not too large to transport with my car.

Frank


Hi Frank,

There is one modification you can do to avoid adding too much lead up front at nose. You can use a powerful single servo (Futaba S9156, JR8611/8711, or Hitec 5955) and doing a pull-pull elevator setup in the mid section.

This will take out about 4.5oz of tail weight which should save you 8-10 oz of extra lead in the nose. You should be able to achieve close to 14lbs doing it this way I think.

If I have time I may give a try on my Cap-X after finishing building the QB Yak 54.

Mitch



garygee -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/26/2008 8:43:44 PM)

WOW...... what a great looking plane does anyone have any build pics ?



zorba007 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/27/2008 1:25:19 AM)

This 35cc version of the Extra 300 is going to be a real hit. You can see that it will give great performances and be easily transported. It's a 'TWEENER'. It falls somewhere between the big glow engines and the 50cc gas engines. I wonder about using a 3w 28i on the Aeroworks 35cc plane... Or, maybe the new Saito 2.20 4-Stroke-



smaze17 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/28/2008 9:06:26 PM)

Fellas - I would prefer to run a single servo in the tail for the rudder as opposed to the pull-pull set-up......does any one know if there is a servo cutout under the covering if someone wants to opt for using a servo in the tail for the rudder?

Thanks in advance!

SM



Mark Dennis -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/28/2008 10:16:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: smaze17

Fellas - I would prefer to run a single servo in the tail for the rudder as opposed to the pull-pull set-up......does any one know if there is a servo cutout under the covering if someone wants to opt for using a servo in the tail for the rudder?

Thanks in advance!

SM


All of our planes have a cut out in the tail for the rudder, this one is no different. So to answer your question, yes however you will need to supply the correct length push-rod.



smaze17 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/29/2008 3:43:59 PM)

Thanks Mark!



M64 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (3/30/2008 5:26:44 PM)

Hi Mark

would you know if there is an aeroworks agent in South Africa?
I would really like to get an extra, but it would be difficult importing one from you without damage to the plane and without having parts go missing while being shipped.

Please help

Marc (M64)



sdstick06 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (4/30/2008 6:41:48 AM)

Mark... how is the coupling? Will a Brillelli 46GT provide unlimited verticle? I am interested in this one. Can you tell us a little more about the flight characteristics on this one please?
Thanks,
SDS



sdstick06 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (5/8/2008 5:15:01 PM)

Ladies and Gentlemen.....

Mark has left the building!



M64 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (5/8/2008 6:36:04 PM)

lol



rxfish -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (5/11/2008 7:23:59 PM)

When is he coming back?



sdstick06 -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (5/11/2008 8:24:43 PM)

Tune in next season for more of the adventures of Mark the disappearing moderator....

Same time... Same channel

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Mark Dennis -> RE: New 35cc Extra 300 QB!!!!!!!!! (5/12/2008 2:27:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sdstick06

Mark... how is the coupling? Will a Brillelli 46GT provide unlimited verticle? I am interested in this one. Can you tell us a little more about the flight characteristics on this one please?
Thanks,
SDS


Sorry for the long delay guys,

There is very little coupling and if I remember correctley it is only about 2-3%. The 46 provides plenty of power even here in the mile high city. As for the flight characteristics the plane is very nuetral. It flys both percision and all out 3D like a much larger plane.



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