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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/10/2002 3:22 AM   
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Okay, I have a question about servo comparison. It has been said on several forums that the S9202 and the S9304 servos are the same except that S9304 is better sealed against dirt and moisture. I see that the listed specs are the same. Is it the same servo internally. I'm planning on getting a set of servos for a new heli and want to be sure of what I'm getting. Tower has the S9304's for $40 (bulk)
Thanks,,, basmntdweller
I'm mostly concerned that the "amp" and pot are the same as the 9202's.

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/11/2002 5:30 PM   
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hi guys! ok, starting from the top..

1. the proper way to do twin elevator servos on an 8U, 9C or 9Z is to use the ailevator function. You can find an example of setting up this and a variety of other aerobat features in the FAQ under "7 servo aerobat".

2. 9Z can absolutely be converted to smooth throttle. Just send her in for service and let us know that's what you want us to do. Please see the following site for a worksheet which will simplify sending your item for service:

http://www.futaba-rc.com/service.html

3. To create a linear throttle you adjust the throttle exponential the same way you adjust expo on all your other channels in the dual rate/expo screen of the 9C.

4. To do twin rudder servos, you simply mix rudder to the second servo's channel, link on, switch off. Please see the FAQ at [url]www.futabarc.com/faq[/url] for your specific radio for instructions on how to do so.

5. Dale, yes it sure is. The new 9C uses a new approach instead of the diode so that your system remains protected from a current surge or reverse polarity but it ALSO ALLOWS DISCHARGE!

6. S9202 vs S9304: Yes they are the same pot and motor.

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Trainer cords - 3/11/2002 10:13 PM   
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Hi AnnMarie,

I was thinking, since you have been such a big help on this forum, I'm sure people would like to would like to find a way to thank you.

9C Trainer cords seem to be a hot item these days. Perhaps people could reserve (i.e. pay you in advance to hold one) and get on a list for when they finally arrive. I know I would like to get one.

I'm all for supporting our local hobby shops, but I'd like to see you get a reward for all of your help. (and, yes, I'm sure it is NOT your intention).

Maybe this could lead to other "RCU Deals".

Just a thought.

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/12/2002 6:54 PM   
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MH, thanks for the suggestion, it is most kind of you.

However, the best you can do to assist me, and futaba, is to work with your local hobby shop or other retailer of preference. Show them you're pleased with futaba and the product line by putting your $$ where your words are, and ordering the chords and anything else you need through their facilities.

Our service center is just htat, a service center, and we really aren't set up to do direct sales; however, we do do it in cases where customers are adamant about wanting to purchase through us. But it is cheaper (almost always) and easier for us (always) if you do your purchase through the intended path of purchase, the retailers.

again thanks for the kind words! I love what I do, and particularly who i do it for -- customers like you and all our friends here on RCU!

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/12/2002 6:57 PM   
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PS, MH, if Futaba users want to say thank you for the work we do, the biggest thing they can do is to regularly utilize our F.A.Q. areas at [url]www.futabarc.com/faq.[/url] let the databases of information we've created help them to utilize their products to the maximum, and in the safest possible manner. When in doubt, please let us provide you an official answer rather than accepting the "field scuttlebut" about a product or the proper way to do things like change receiver frequencies, what items are still legal to use, etc.

And we're always looking forward to hearing recommendations to improve the technical information on our websites, new FAQ information you'd like to see, how to better organize it to make it easier to use. Most of all, tell your friends who fly Futaba about the wealth of information available for them here!

So many commercial sites have little to no useful technical info that many modelers never even think to look for the info. But our site offers downloadable copies of most manuals ever printed, and pages upon pages of tech. answers to the most common questions we receive.

THANKS!

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Futaba Chargers - 3/15/2002 11:50 PM   
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I tested three of my Futaba chargers. All came with Futaba sets that were purchased within the past 3 yrs.

On all of the chargers the RX side gives 5+ volts but when I test the TX side I get between 8-9 volts. If the output is less than 9.6 volts how can it charge a 9.6 volt TX battery? Am I missing something.

Thanks for your help-I think what you and Mike is terrific for the RC Hobby.
Paul Ryan

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/16/2002 1:25 AM   
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The charger output is not a clean DC level. It has some AC on the line and a voltmeter will only read the DC output. There is a way to test it with a voltmeter and that is to put a electrolytic capacitor across the output and then read it with the voltmeter. This will give a much more accurate reading.

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CAM PAC Question - 3/16/2002 1:33 AM   
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G'Day AnneMarie,

I have a question on the CAMPAC and I can't seem to find details on the Futaba web site. There seem to be two models available the FUTCAMPAC and the FUTCAMPAC8 based on what I can find on a vendor site.

I'm not interested in a 3rd party campac unit, I'd rather stick with Futaba. I just unfortunately?? ran out of model numbers as I keep adding them to my 8UAFS radio and nowI need to add the memory to allow 16 models.

Now what I found was that the FUTCAMPAC in Cdn $$ is $155 and the FUTCAMPAC8 is $140. Just curious in what is the difference? The FUTCAMPAC8 says it has 16k for 8 more models but I can't find any details on the other one.

I'd appreciate if you could point me somewhere to get more details on them.

Many thanks

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/16/2002 1:35 AM   
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Hi Bob!

The less expensive one is designed for the 8U, 9C, etc. it adds 8 model memory to the 8U and 6 model memory to the 9C.

The larger unit is designed only for the 9Z, and holds much more data than the smaller 8U campac.

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CAMPAC - 3/16/2002 3:34 AM   
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Many thanks!!,

It's a pleasure to hear the gadget I want is the less expensive one. How often do we hear that

I was so pleased with mine, Mrs. Nuker got one for Christmas too . Of course with her just earning her wings last fall, she only has 4 planes .... so far ....... sssiiigghhh

Again thanks for the info

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/17/2002 9:01 AM   
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Hi Nuker, I have heard of several people using the larger Campac successfully on the 9C. It will take a bit longer to load models from the Campac then the smaller version, but other than that they have reported no problems.

A friend is going to lend me his larger campac that he has for this 9Z to try out so that I can see first hand how well it works.

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Super8 5 Point mixing, how do you link the trim???? - 3/17/2002 9:25 AM   
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I want to use the 5 point mix on my Futaba Super 8 to program my 2 tail mounted elevator servos. The 5 point mix will give me 5 points of control over the travel of the servo to compensate for any differential (mechanical or in the servo). But there is no trim link on the 5 point mixers (mix 6 and 7) like there are in the standard mixers (mix 1-4). Kinda kills the idea because only my master servo moves with trim). Is the trim link hidden somewhere, or there a work around using a normal mixer in conjunction?

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64 K CAMPAC - 3/17/2002 6:49 PM   
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I originally had a 16 K chip in my 9C and traded up to the 64 K and it works great. I have 28 of the 32 memory slots programmed , and found very little change in the time it takes to boot up. The cost of the 64 K - CAMPAC is under $100.00 .
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AnnMarie at Toledo? - 3/17/2002 8:52 PM   
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AnnMarie,

Will you be at the Toledo show this year? Just wondering if I will be able to meet you live and in person. Thanks.

Dan

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/17/2002 10:48 PM   
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Dan, Sure will be.

Campac 64K -- yes it works. No it is not officially recommended due to the long boot times.

Trims on curve mixes -- no, there are no trims on the curve mixes, only the linear mixes. You might be able to use ailevator, and then do a curve mix of the 2nd elevator servo to itself starting at 0% making only minor adjustments where needed and see if htat works for you.

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sound level - 3/18/2002 1:00 AM   
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AnnMarie,

Firstoff, i think this is a great idea, I know i'll have more questions in time!!!!
I can barely hear the beeps my new 9ZAP transmitter makes in the quiet enviorment of my shop. I won't have a clue at the flying field. Any way to increase the volume?????????

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/18/2002 5:22 PM   
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Hi, Bob! Sorry, no.

Bob -- fyi -- there is a yahoo groups mailing list just for 9Z owners. it is called futaba9z and can be joined at yahoogroups.com. i can't recommend it highly enough to get to know your radio!

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/19/2002 6:45 PM   
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PS: Please all visit the thread on the Futaba FAQs. Please let me know your thoughts there, and also don't hesitate to try out/use the automated response system and let us know what you think and how to make it better!

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/19/2002 7:15 PM   
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What are the advantages of the 9Z over the 9C ? Is the 9Z due for replacement anytime soon ?
Thanks
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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/19/2002 7:29 PM   
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JP,
The big advantage 9Z offers over 9C is full condition flexibility. 9Z is the most flexible radio available on the US market I'm aware of due to the ability to have 8 full conditions per model memory in which everything in the conditions menu is adjustable. By comparison, the 10X has fewer conditions and very limited assignability within each, and forces the user to use up certain specific conditions.

For the average pilot, the 9C is more than you will ever need. However, if you're looking at a competition scale bird, a high end competition glider, and particularly competition aerobatics, the 9Z has so much more to offer you in flexibility to help your model make you look your best.

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/19/2002 7:30 PM   
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PS: I can never answer on potential future products; however, in looking at Futaba's pattern of time span for products, the WCII has not been with us very long and I, as a modeler, would not expect to see it replaced any time soon.

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/21/2002 3:32 AM   
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For Annmarie. Ok, I went to the Futaba faq and followed the directions to program twin elevator servos using free mix 1 on channels 2 and 7 ( 8uap ) . Everthing works except the channel 7 knob still controls one elevator servos neutral point if you turn the knob. How do you disable it ? Or , is this ok ??
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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/21/2002 8:31 AM   
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Hi AnnMarie

First let me state that I believe that the Futaba site has far exceeded its competition in supporting its users by providing online information, especially in the area of online manuals and FAQs. Thank you.

You might remember that I wrote the original response to the "Illegal Transmitters" discussion on RCO. I also saw that following the discussion you updated the "Please explain narrow band to me......." section under the "Service, Parts and Discontinued Products" FAQ.

I would like to see you update the 4th & 5th statement to include the word manufactured.

4 - If your TX is AM, and it was manufactured on an odd numbered channel? Then it is definitely narrow band and legal.

5 - If your TX is AM, and it was manufactured on a channel below 38? Then it is definitely narrow band and legal.

The reason being is that during the early days of the new frequencies, many people changed there transmitter to one of the new frequencies to get to a less used channel. Although this was illegal, I know it was done. Someone picking up a used transmitter, and reading your current statement, may think that its legal based on the frequency when it may have been altered.

Thank you - Al

PS: Hope this doesn't start a rehash of this, but when I E-mailed you directly I only got an autoresponder reply and nothing else.

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Problem with a gyro - 3/21/2002 11:04 AM   
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OK Gents need a little help here. The problem is as follows. I am setting up my JR 460T gyro on my bobcat. I installed it, plugged my rudder servos into it via a y cable and turned on the system. As the instructions said I let it set motionless for 3 seconds and it found it's center point. I then started setting up the high and low gain. Unfortunately when I go from low to high gain or vice versa The gyro resets it center position. I have called horizon and they are no help because I am using a futaba radio so they won't help and great planes won't help because I am using a JR gyro. So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

So here are the facts:

JR 460T gyro
Futaba 9Z WC2 radio
Futaba 309DPS Receiver
JR Servos


Any help and suggestions welcomed.



[SIZE=3]Gyro Problem Solved[/SIZE]

Well I went back and re-read the instructions and in the instructions (in small print) is a note that says that the gyro gain center will change when switching from low gain to high gain. I completely missed that in the instructions the first THREE times I read them. The thing that disturbs me is that when I called Horizon about the problem they didn't even catch that. They just put it off to being a Futaba Transmitter as the problem.

Patrick.

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(Ask Me Too!) Futaba V1.0 - 3/21/2002 6:14 PM   
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Dali,
You now need to use a second mix to turn off hte knob as covered in the first 8U faq.


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