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Chip and I will be doing a build on the new Pass-Port ARF from CA Models. Here are pics of Chip's Pass-Port just out of the box. Just to let everyone know all CA Models are imported into the US by Netboxhobbies. here is the link http://www.netboxhobby.com/main.sc I recieved this from Chip, I will be adding to the thread as I get the info from Chip.
Hi Guys
Since I haven't done a build thread before, and there is not a real rush to get these models in the air, I decided to give it a shot. This is the new Passport EP. Designed by Marcelo Columbo and myself to be used to compete in all classes of precision aerobatics. These models are manufactured and sold exclusively through CA Models and their authorized dealers. Since this is the Deluxe ARF version, it comes standard with the following items.
1. CA Models Carbon Gear 2. Carbon Wing Tube/Stab Tube/Anti-Rotation Pin 3. Clear Canopy 4. CA Models Lite Wheels 5. CHP Ball Bearing Horns 6. CA Models Carbon Spinners 7. Incidence Adjuters Wing/ Stab 8. Light Weight Wooden Shipping Boxes 9. Carbon Wheel Pants 10. 2 PC Wing/Stab 11. Carbon/Kevlar/Fiberglass Fuselage 12. 1 PC Foam/Balsa Rudder 13. Nomex Formers/Servo Trays
Optional Extras 1. Split Rudder 2. Removable wing tips/wing tip fins
Any Questions that have to do with Pricing or availibility please send them to Luis at http://www.netboxhobby.com/main.sc first. If he cannot help, then try the factory direct. I am only involved with the design and construction of these models so I do not have a clue when it comes to anything more than that.
This morning I unpacked both of them and I must say I was very pleased with the quality of these models. The CA guys have really stepped up to the plate from what I have seen. I was a little concerned after getting a couple of planes last year that I really had to struggle with to make weight, and in the end didn't. After the Nationals, Marcelo and I had some long conversations about what its going to take to be able to compete with some of the planes coming from Japan and China. Since then they have made a few changes which will enable them to do just that. Most are in the quality of the raw materials. Everything from the epoxy used to lay up the fuselages, to the type of foam for the wings and stabs. In the end, the models from 6 months ago may look identical to these when setting next to one another, but these will be a few ounces lighter as well as stronger.
After I unpacked both planes, I started the hinging process. Each aileron has 4 CA hinges, while the elevators and each rudder half only use 3. The rudder hinges go into the leading edge of each half at a 45 degree angle and then they meet and each side uses the same slot in the rudder post. Be sure to use something about an inch long to wedge between the two halves when you are ready to CA the hinges in place. If not you will more then likely end up with a built up one piece rudder.
Please remember these will be electric powered planes, and if a glo version is what you decide to go with you will need to add at least one more hinge per surface.
After the hinges were all set in place and glued I decided to put them both together just to make sure everything fit like I had hoped, which it did.
A good friend of mine was nice enough to open up his shop for this little project, so I can do both at the same time and not have to worry about running out of space. However, by doing this I have limited my work time a little due to our schedules. He has to be away traveling for his business tonight and tomorrow, and I leave Thurs. for the NASCAR race in Vegas. So from now until Monday there will not be much added. I do however plan to fly them before the following weekend so next week will be a blur. BTW Todd Blose will have his 2 Passports within the next week, so he will be able to answer any questions about these Planes as well.
I also forgot to mention it earlier, if anyone knows a way of doing something better or easier, please don't hesitate to chime in. I am always open to trying a new technique or trick that will make this process as painless as possible.
Thanks
Chip
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What is your choice of power source and your initial impression of the quality?
Kevin, I will be running the Hacker C50XL14 with FlightPower 535010s batteries. I am very imperssed with the quality of the paint and covering on the Pass-Port
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Here are a couple of pic's of the split rudder. We are using ca hinges and what we do is hinge each rudder in the same place then put both sets into the rudder post works great.
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Why is the rudder split?
Mark, the rudder is split to help on knife edge. we only use on side and leave to other rudder straight to give the fuse more side area. We will use both rudders in stall turns and snaps.
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Does the split rudder come standard on the PassPort
As far as I know the split rudder will be an option.
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Two rudders mean two separate servos per rudder? So you will have three conditions for the rudder which means two for left and right KE and one for normal flight? Have you tested the split rudder on knife edge? How does it work really? How does the moving rudder produce lift in KE if there is not airflow under it due to the non moving rudder??
Also can you use the two rudders deflected at equal angle in the downlines for break?
Looking forward to your answers, Nikos
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