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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/9/2008 3:29:33 AM   
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Is the split rudder a proven concept or will it be tested for the first time?


The 1st Pass-Port last year had the split rudder and it worked very well

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/9/2008 3:39:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes the split rudder is a proven concept and has been around for many years as a type of airbreak. However that was not why I chose to split the rudder on the passport. I did so to help deaden the rudders effectiveness around the center. Basically when a rudder input is given only half the rudder moves the other half stays straight. It is that way accept for stall turns, then both halves move together. By doing that for normal flight it has allowed the use of the wing tip fins in order to be able to have the same charecteristics in yaw that a bipe has. I was very pleased with the proto-type in every way, and the only changes we made to these was one more degree anhedral in the stab and a little more dihedral in the wing. Looking forward to the test flight in the next day or so.

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Hello,

Is the split rudder a proven concept or will it be tested for the first time?

Thanks



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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/9/2008 6:37:24 AM   
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Silly question. What is the purpose behind the curved trailing edge on the rudder? Looks, or does it serve a purpose? Was it to take a little area out of the rudder to further deaden it? I saw that airplane on display at the WC in Argentina and was VERY impressed with it. I can't wait to see one actually fly, or to fly one for that much.

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/9/2008 10:51:00 PM   
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Does one have to pull strings to get one of there birds,...LOL? I've asked several times over the past two months for a ARC Passport. Nextbox told me there were only available in a kit form for now and the ARF would not be out till May or so. I had previously ordered an Osmose ARF and found out you can't make weight with it unless you build it yourself. Is there any hope in getting an ARF before May?

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/9/2008 11:57:12 PM   
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I am sorry but I do not know the answer, I hope Marcelo will chime in and let us know.

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 12:21:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some pic's of the install and how I am getting airflow through the firewall, I should have it in the air by mid week.

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 1:42:53 AM   
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Chip,

Silly question. What is the purpose behind the curved trailing edge on the rudder? Looks, or does it serve a purpose? Was it to take a little area out of the rudder to further deaden it? I saw that airplane on display at the WC in Argentina and was VERY impressed with it. I can't wait to see one actually fly, or to fly one for that much.


Ryan,

The curved TE on the rudder is strictly cosmetic. If you haven't flown one by Nats time look me up and I will let you get some time on one of mine.

Chip

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 3:19:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: advanced2

Hello Guys,

Does one have to pull strings to get one of there birds,...LOL? I've asked several times over the past two months for a ARC Passport. Nextbox told me there were only available in a kit form for now and the ARF would not be out till May or so. I had previously ordered an Osmose ARF and found out you can't make weight with it unless you build it yourself. Is there any hope in getting an ARF before May?



Hello Advance2, I can get any Pass-Port ARF in 15 days. I just sold 3 Pass Port las three weeks.

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 9:26:12 AM   
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Thanks for the info

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 4:45:22 PM   
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Tood, you had the colors on yours changed is this a large undertaking to request. I would like to have 2 of something flying by the NATS for FAI/F3A this year. Do you have to use the split rudder setup and if so, will you guys assist in helping with the mixing required if need be?

Awesome looking machine,.....how does it compare to an Osmose,.....any idea! The only reason I am asking is I ordered an Osmose from Luiz and have'nt had it shipped yet for other reasons.

Thanks Guys,
Bill Holsten

PS: Good to see Chip on here posting!

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 5:02:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		here you have some pictures of the last Pass-Port that I received.

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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 5:03:11 PM   
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RE: CA Models Pass-Port Build - 3/10/2008 5:04:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the answer Chip and Todd.

Bill, I have the Osmose ARF and ARF deluxe and they came to 4985 (because of a repair) and 4785 DLX, I don't know who told you it will not make the weight, mines did with no mods and using standar equipment.

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