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Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 2/27/2008 1:39:36 AM   
sscherin



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Status: offline 		I got my Lanier Cap 232 kit today..

Here's the specs

Overall Length: 79-1/8" (201.4cm)
Wingspan: 81" (206cm)
Wing Area: 1275 sq in (82.36 sq dm)
Flying Weight: 12lbs - (5443g - 7711g)

pics soon

It's a big kit.. Well it's my first giant so it's big for me..
First thing was an inventory.
The box arrived undamaged..
The primary packing material is packing paper.. no foam or bubble wrap.. No big deal they used loads of it... everything was in ok shape..

All the foam cores for the wings horizontal and vertical stabs were in great shape.. ..
the shuck on the horz stab was slightly damaged but it's not going to hurt anything.

Wing tube.. heavy!! Landing gear... thick and heavy.. I'm thinking CF here. I'll weigh them later.
the LG isn't the straight set pictured on the box but a tapered set.

I got a bunch of bundles of sheeting.. I need to weigh them..

All ply parts except the fuse sides were laser cut and clearly marked. No luan here.. 100% lite ply. Even the 1/4 formers.

The fuse sieds are 1 piece , cnc routed and also lite ply.. Some more wood can be taken out to save weight.

Canopy in good shape..
Cowel.. 2 piece ABS.. looks like a nightmare.. I'll be calling Stans. or seeing if a GP 80" arf cowel will fit.
Pants are also ABS but might work.

2 sets of plans

bundles of tri stock and stringers..

Overall out of the box I give it a 4 out of 5.. Knocking it a point for the horrible ABS cowl.



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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 2/27/2008 2:27:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		80 inch is A big plane, just today 40% plus is way bigger and being seen A lot. Fiberglass Specialties also has the cowls for that plane. I'm now always impressed when I open A kit box and see A real fiberglass cowl, way back when it was the norm, today it's A nice surprise.
Are you going to be posting up the build here?? Hope so.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 2/27/2008 5:15:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		This will be a build thread.. It may not start for a month or two.. I have to finish my Citabria first.

It's a much better kit than I'd expected from Lanier.

I did a 2nd inventory and found a few errors with the list..

FN1 (2) does not exist.. It's really FT1 and there is only 1.. the directions call for FT1

FS4 is missing from the inventory sheet. (4 pieces)
FS3 is listed as 4 parts but I only have 2..

I believe FS4 is incorrectly listed as FS3 on the sheet and FS3 is the one that is really missing.. (get it?)

FS2 is 1/4 inch.. not 1/8th

C6 (2 pieces) is not listed.

LG1 and firewall are not marked. just cut pieces of 1/4" birch ply.

Inventory sheet calls for a rudder post but it's stamped as Finpost.




That's it for the inventory list errors.

Wing tube.. T6 60161 Aluminum.. 215 grams. I should be able to get that down to 144g with a CF tube.. saves almost 1/4 pound

Landing gear.. 372 grams (13.2 ounces) should be good for another 1/2 pound if replaced with CF.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/1/2008 5:53:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK here's What ya get..

How UPS lot a box this big baffles me. (this is the 2nd one they shipped)


What's inside? Paper! lots of it..


Under that.. Wing cores and more paper!


Bundles of sticks and sheets..
I weighed the wing sheeting.. 26 sheets of 3/32x3x42.. High was 72g low.. 40g.. average 50-60g pr sheet


Canopy/Hatch.. I'll build a balsa hatch and just keep the canopy section


Laser cut lite ply.. (it's all lite ply.. no luan)


Crappy ABS 2 piece Cowl thing.. I'll get glass


Gear.. Havvy


Fuse side.. 1 piece lite ply.. CNC routed..


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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/2/2008 1:11:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will be ordering one of these in a couple of days, I plan to build mine next winter so I will be watching your build, taking some notes and learning a few things in the meantime

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/2/2008 6:19:39 AM   
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Status: online 		I had one of these same kits delivered from tower a few weeks ago. I have not yet started mine, I was also happy it did not have luan doorskin parts in the box. I also pulled the ABS parts from the box and threw them in the recycle bin.

Although I have built many kits over the years, I have never skinned foam cores before. I am still on the fence as to whether a vaccum bag setup is the way to go for this project. I really don't want to mess up on my first foam core wing skinning job.

Both FG spaecialties, and stans list a cowl for this kit.

I will probably use a 50cc gasser in my plane, although I have a new MOKI 2.1 that would work well also.


Mike
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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/2/2008 7:25:40 AM   
sscherin



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Status: offline 		If you get a chance read through this 6 part giant scale Extra build featured in MA

http://www.modelaircraft.org/Mag/hurley/hurley1.asp

change the # after hurley to get to the next section..

The have several great tips and go over several methods of sheeting the wings.

How I do it is really up in the air now..

Just found out on Wednesday we are being re-orged at work.. Everyone gets to re-apply for their jobs 10% pay cuts yadda yadda..
I'm sure outsource will be the next thing we hear...

So anyway I'm going to try and beat the rush, pull some strings and see if I can get back to Washington..

If I can do that I'll see if one of my old glider buddies can help me vacuum bag the wings..

Otherwise I'll be going with PVA glue, culls and about 200 pounds of bagged sand.

If I can get my hands on a cutting bow I'd like to cut a foam turtle beck and canopy hatch.. Time will tell.

Anyway die to the job issue any actual building is on hold for now.

I can still do lots of planning..

Engine will depend on what I find..

I've seen some good deals on used DA and 3W 50cc motors..

DL-50 is another option..

This 50cc twin wins the cool factor but it's down on power and a bit heavy.. Should run smooth though.. well compared to a big single.



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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/2/2008 8:09:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Weigh the balsa skis and use the light ones for the wings.

Use the heavy ones for the front hatch area and stabs.

Looks good. I'm jealous. I just went back to work after 4 months off and I can't afford much more than food and gasoline right now. If I had the $$, I'd be buying those Lanier kits from Tower--as many as I could afford. I REALLY want one of those 35% Giles 202 kits. $200 is a steal. Maybe if they still have any left next month, I'll go ahead and buy a kit. You can always rathole another kit for down the road.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/3/2008 1:43:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sscherin

Just found out on Wednesday we are being re-orged at work.. Everyone gets to re-apply for their jobs 10% pay cuts yadda yadda..
I'm sure outsource will be the next thing we hear...




Uuuuuggggh........

Sorry to hear that. Those things really put a damper on the flying time.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/3/2008 3:17:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		RCPILOT, sorry but the Giles are sold out and discontinued as well.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 3/24/2008 7:09:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got one also before they were sold out. Haven't started iy yet. but it's next.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 5/2/2008 11:16:59 PM   
gboulton



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Status: offline 		Hi all,

Just drug one of these home from the LHS today. Being down at $110 at this point, it was just too cheap NOT to, ya know?

Since I was thinking of doing a buld thread, but then found this one, I PM'd sscherin, and he agreed to let me "horn in" on this thread, so I'll be doing build pics and such here as well. Perhaps, a few months down the road, we can have THE Cap 232 build thread to end all build threads. *heh*

Here's some prelim. info:

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Power will be a DL-50. I've been curious about the DL-50 for a while, and since I won't be hugely "involved" with this airplane, financially or emotionally, seems like the best time to give one a try. Worst case, I cough up $350 on a motor in a plane I'm not that worried about, best case, I get some experience with them, and will have reason to jump on a DL-100 when they arrive.

Scheme is going to be Nicolas Ivanoff's Cap 232 from the Red Bull series a few years back. Not a huge fan of Nic's or anything (More of a Kirby guy myself *heh*), but it's a drop-dead gorgeous scheme imo:



Plans are to do some fairly "basic" things to lighten her up, but nothing outrageous. Wing and stab sheeting will be done with contest grade balsa, CF tube and gear, lightening holes in the formers, that sort of thing.

Will probably pull a glass cowl off the ABS "thing" in the box, using it as a plug. May decide instead to wimp out, and just buy one...we'll see. Will also mod the canopy with a wood frame.

Anywho, hope to get started on it soon...going to shelve the TF Mustang that's on the table right now, and "knock this out" fairly "quickly" if I can. Doubtful the Mustang would be done this season anyway, and it'll be nice to have something new to take to the field before the season ends.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 5/2/2008 11:29:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like a good plan gboulton.


Sorry I've been so quiet lately..
Lots going on here.. I'll be moving back to Washington in June.

So long story short all my builds are on hold till we get moved.
Just to add to the pile of projects I picked up a Byron P-51 Kit too.

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 5/3/2008 3:25:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys,

I've seen gboulton get into a building frenzy marathon, so you better stay tuned. If he gets the urge, he'll have this Cap framed up in 4 or 5 days!

What's that? Do I hear the dremel cutting lightening holes in the fuse sides already?

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RE: Lanier 81" Cap 232 - 5/3/2008 3:35:31 AM