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Uniforms - 2/27/2008 2:40:24 AM   
pzrwest



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Status: offline 		Since the the other thread has been locked and all off topic items were deleted I'm re-posting the pics on German uniforms.
The color of german uniforms varied from maker to maker, dye lot, and period. The main difference between Heer and SS tunics was the number of belt hook holes, Heer had 3 verticle holes and the SS had just 2 holes. The tunics changed throught out the war as to number of buttons on the flap, color of the collar, and pleats on the pockets. The main models were M36, M40, M42, M43, and M44. I have also included an example of an SS officers tunic and a Heer officers tunic. Color of piping on the shoulder straps varried according to branch, Inf-white, Artillery-red, Signals-lemon yellow, Calvary-gold yellow, Panzer-rose pink. SS had a secondary underlay of black for officers and black straps for em/nco with branch piping. As long as you are close to the color range it will be fine for german uniforms. Here are the uniform pics again

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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 2:47:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reguarding the question about black panzer wraps they were originally black wool, later field grey wraps were introduced for Stug crews but panzer crews adopted them as well. They also introduced a denim type wrapper as well, it was basically the same cut as the other wrappers except they had a large external pocket on the left side. The SS introduced a camo wrapper as well. There were some private tailored heer splinter wrappers as well. The difference between a Heer wrapper and an SS one is as follows, the heer wrappers had a center seam down the back of the wrapper the SS one didn't, also the Heer wrapper had an angled front flap where the SS one was straight.

As a side note there were a couple panzergrenadier regiments that wore the field grey wrappers with the application of the pzgren insignial(collar tabs, shoulder straps, etc) instead of the panzer insignia.

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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 11:53:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Pzrwest!

And thank You very much to put those pictures and explanations here again. Now I was smarter and copied those safe before this treat get deleted also.

So those camo-wearings appears not until -44?
And still one more question. Did they really wear all those glitters (medal and rippons) all the time and all wrappers?

Sincerelly,

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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 12:11:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes they did wear their medals and badges. Although when the camo items were worn the medals would be worn un the tunic underneath the camo clothing.

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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 12:14:24 PM   
pzrwest



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ORIGINAL: killick64

Can anybody tell me where I can find the TANK FORUM ....?


These unuiform pics were posted as a result of a person asking about the color of german uniforms. Standard German uniforms were worn by tank crews.


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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 4:21:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Harold...I really appreciate your posting those photos again and have no problem at all with them ---I'm in fact happy to see them!

Reviews of historical tanks, uniforms, gear, etc. are ALWAYS welcome here. I inevitably learn something I didn't know before .... !

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RE: Uniforms - 2/27/2008 7:10:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whats up with those upward-facing belt holders? Don't look very comfortable

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RE: Uniforms - 2/28/2008 2:20:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Panzerfaust77 no they aren't very comfortable if you are trying to sleep with your tunic on and your gear removed. But when wearing your gear they were very comfortable and the internal strap bore the load of the belt and gear on the shoulders. Once they introduced the Y-Straps the belt hooks and and internal traps for them were removed. They put the hooks back in when on leave when wearing just their belts and buckle as per regulations. Till the Y straps were introduced the belt hooks and internal straps supported the belt and all the gear that hung from the belt.

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RE: Uniforms - 3/5/2008 6:31:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know if these pic's will come through with the current virus thing going on but here are the uniform pic's I took at the Panzer Museum.
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RE: Uniforms - 3/5/2008 10:23:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like the pics didn't go through Perry S. As for the virus thing I can't understand why people have to mess with other peoples things. Do they get a kick out of messing things up?

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RE: Uniforms - 3/6/2008 1:46:57 AM   
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