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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/25/2008 5:29:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I heated up vaseline and dipped the hing part of the hinges in and let them dry. Then I installed the ailerons. Then I had to put a new barbecue together. Their plans were the pits. Then I installed the servos. I didn't tighten the screws for the horn yet. I connected the rods to the servos inside the plane. It's starting to come together now.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/25/2008 1:51:41 PM   
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I heated up vaseline and dipped the hing part of the hinges in and let them dry. Then I installed the ailerons. Then I had to put a new barbecue together. Their plans were the pits. Then I installed the servos. I didn't tighten the screws for the horn yet. I connected the rods to the servos inside the plane. It's starting to come together now.
What did you hook the servo to on the barbecue?????.the gas valve???

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/25/2008 3:39:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was just wondering how you felt about building this plane. Did you enjoy it, or was it more of a chore? I was just interested in how you felt, because some people I talk to think it is the worst thing in the world and swear off building another and some really enjoy it. I love building and would not give it up for anything. To me that's half the fun of the hobby, but I was wondering how you felt.

It's looking good. From what I can see, you should have it ready to fly in the next week of so. Let us know how things go. I am really interested in how it flies for you. Take care and keep up the great work.
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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 4:49:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've really enjoyed building this plane Ed. I've learned so much. I'm sure I could build one in half the time now. I didn't know anything when I started. I read 3 other forums here before I decided to build. It would be hard for a first time builder like me to build without the help and support I got from this forum. I hope what I posted will help someone else. I'll build again next winter. I'm still flying my trainer for a while. I'll get one of the better flyers at the club to maiden it. I still have to put the engine on and balance it. In the cockpit I contacted emerycloth to the wood instead of painting. It's really black and got the rough look. I put the spring on the tailwheel. I put a switch on with a charger built in. I'm going to etch the aluminum landing gear and paint it semi flat black.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 4:53:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I can blame my mother for getting me interested in building model planes. I guess she got tired of me sitting around the house getting in her way all the time. I started with a balsa stick model with all the parts printed on the sheets and you had to cut the formers out and put everything together with sticks. The only help I had was my mother telling me I could do it. I finally managed to get it together, but it didn't look very good. I improved a little on my next kit and then I me a friend that was flying C/L and he got me started on that. I started on 1/2A first and the got into the bigger ones later. He was a big help, but I still had to do most of it myself with him telling me what I did wrong after the fact. In short, I learned everything the hard way. We didn't have computers, no online forums, and no one to help us very much. After I got into R/C, I got more help, but no where near what we have now.

It's great to have what we have now where everyone can come together to help the new people and answer questions that someone may have. I just wish we had something like this when I was growing up, but you know how that was. You went through pretty much the same thing I did when I was growing up, but I started a lot sooner then you did with the models. It's nice to have so many people out here who are interested in helping the new people just starting out and from what I have seen, they are a great bunch of people. Some really go out of their way to help.

I'm glad you enjoyed building your first airplane and your right, they get easier as you go one. The second is much easier and they go together much faster. The only time they get harder is when you get into something like a P-51. That would be a challenge to build and fly, but that is a whole other realm of plans. Good luck with this one and I hope if flies really good for you. It's looking great and I am looking forward to hearing about the first flight. Take care and good luck,
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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 5:05:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		We all can learn from each other. Even so called 'beginners'. I learned two new techniques from you just cheking in on this thread again and on this last page I learned about the Vaseline trick and the emory cloth for the interior trick.

Your Four Star is looking quite nice!

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 5:35:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I learn something new every time I sign on to one of these forums, either something I never learned before, or a new way to do something. I guess as long as you are learning, you keep going. I even learn from the new people. A lot of them have a different way of looking at things and that even helps us old farts that think we know it all and have been around forever. I never thought I knew it all, but I have been around almost forever. I just starting to get into gliders again after a lot of years out of it and found out how much fun it can be just lazing around in the sky and watching the birds fly right along side of you in a thermal. Some of the birds get real close checking out my glider and I have heard of some getting attacked by birds, but I haven't had that joy yet. For some reason I am the worlds greatest at finding sink, but not so hot at finding lift. Guess I got a ways to go yet, but it's still fun. I'm going out in a little while to try my luck again and pretty soon I'll have a new glider to play with. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. It's not always about how good you can do something, but the new people you meet and the things you learn along the way.
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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 5:38:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		That looks great the whole project brings to light the entusiasum of that first R/C build and flying experience.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 8:01:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I learned a lot from your thread Kmot. Even up to the end I referred to it. It was yours and a couple others that inspired me to build. I have a question. The rod that comes out for the elevator will have to be on quite an angle to accept the horn. Do you put the horn on an angle? Or will it work ok if I put it straight?

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/26/2008 10:11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		The push rod needs to be straight to the horn. If not, you will wind up with a bind and it will put pressure on the clevis and if it is nylon, you could wind up breaking it after awhile. If you need to put a little bend in the push-rod to meet the horn straight, that's fine. I do that all the time and never had any problems. You have to watch the wire though. Make sure it is not a soft wire and if it is, replace it with a good one. You could also use a ball joint clevis to hook up the control horn. They use a 2.56 bolt to go through the ball joint and hook to the control horn. I have used these too and they work great, but make sure you use a nylock nut so it doesn't come loose, or use the blue thread lock on a regular nut to hold it on. You may also need to use a heavy duty control horn. Don't come in at to much of an angle though, or you will still have problems. The easiest is to just bend the push-rod to line up with the control horn. I have put two bends in some of my push rods to get everything lined up, so don't worry about bending it, just make sure it is not one of those really soft wires that give you all kinds of flex. I often change out the wire they give you in kits or ARF's because it is softer then I like. Just put a little pressure on your control surface while moving the servo and see if the push-rod wire bends a lot. That will tell you if you need to replace it. Hope this helps.
Ed

PS. Make sure you use the radio to move the servo, not by hand. Moving them by hand can mess them up faster then anything I know of. Just make your hook-up and then use your radio to give it up and down elevator and put a little pressure on the elevator with your finger to see how much the wire bends.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/27/2008 1:42:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ed, what about putting the horn on the same angle as the rod? I etched the aluminum gear then painted it black. I made up the rods for the elevator and rudder.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/27/2008 4:45:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		dapam: That would work okay, but it requires the pushrod and servo to be lined up. This is actually not uncommon. When you look inside a fusealge you will see the rudder and elevator pushrods crossing over each other. This is why.

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/27/2008 10:02:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I finished installing the rudder horn and elevator horn. Then did the ailerons. Everything is working ok, I just have to get someone with more experience to make sure I got the throws right. I'm learning how to use my spektrum radio at the same time. I just have to do a weight and balance and install the engine and put on the canopy.

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< Message edited by dapam03 -- 4/27/2008 10:23:40 PM >

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RE: 4* 60 first time build by 67 yr. old - 4/27/2008 10:20:35 PM