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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/21/2004 5:12:32 PM   
NE0



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Status: offline 		I think you are all correct to some degree. I believe the heavy wingloading, with a relatively high-bank turn and no rudder input bled the speed off and caused the stall. However, Dion is right, it just didn't fly clean and I believe there was something fundamentally wrong in the aerodynamics. Maybe a warped wing, non-symmetrical washout factor, bad incidence on wing/stab/or both. Who knows... but I don't think it was tailheavy.

This is one of the many reasons I'm not interested in rebuilding it. If I did, it would take many months or longer to get it back in fighting shape. Even then, it would be heavier than it is now due to repairs, never look as good as it did, and probably would still have all the same aerodynamic issues if not more. It just would never fly the way I wanted it to, so it's not worth puttling all that work back into it to be dissapointed again.

When I built this plane, I had a different job with a lot more time on my hands. I started a new job a few months ago and my building time has dropped from 40 hours a week to about 8 hours. At that rate, any new scale plane I do will take 4-5 times longer to complete. I'm just not going to put 10 years into a plane to see this happen again. For now, I'm going to stick to easy builds and ARFs until I'm a more experienced pilot. Big heavy warbird ARFs like the TF 51, Skyshark P40, etc may be in my immediate future. Even with those planes, I can add "my personal touch" to make them a step above the other ARFs in scale appearance.

I simply need more experience flying heavy warbirds and figuring out what makes a plane fly good and what will make it fly like a wild child. I'm not going to gain that experience on a 2000 hour project again... I learned my lesson. For now, it's fly, hunt, work and relax. Building is not even on my mind.

Tom

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/21/2004 7:25:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, I have one of the Top Flite 51 arfs and it is a great flying airplane. Just the thing to get into a larger heavier airplane. For what you get it is also relativly cheap. I have a ZDZ 40 in mine and it pulls it just great, also the Robart gear has given me no problem at all. Don

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/21/2004 9:36:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of my good friends at our field has that 51, with a 3.7 in it! What's that... about 60cc? Man that thing screams. He flies it wide open ALL the time... unbelievable. Flies great, lands slow with flaps. I think I can get my 52cc running again with a little repair... might be a good match.

I'm still verly interested in the SkysharkRC P40 Warhawk, but apparently they're still having some problems working out the bugs in that new design...



Their web site says they're just not happy with the quality from outsourced component manufacturers and the plane is coming in 5-6 pounds heavier than they want. Been there, done that... don't want to go down that road. Hopefully they'll have good news in December like they said they hope to on their site. We'll see.

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/21/2004 10:14:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, what is your "new" job. Still in the same field I presume? Only wondering as it is my field also.
Paul

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/22/2004 2:29:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paul,

I'm a Multimedia Communications Specialist for a Lighting Manufacturing company now. Still in the same basic game, just a different industry and I don't have to do "printed" marketing anymore. Now I do only electronic/multimedia presentations, CDs, videos, DVDs, Flash, etc.. (no more brochures, direct mail, etc.)

This job allows me to get back in to some heavy duty electronic multimedia again, and even 3D animation (which is my favorite thing to do). I've been out of serious 3D animating and video for the past couple years and really missed it. Now I'm really having a ball at work and spend a lot more hours there.

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/23/2004 2:21:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom, glad to see you're working tightly in the niche you enjoy most. I do, by far, much more "print work" than new media stuff myself. It certainly has its' ups and downs.
Paul

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/23/2004 2:41:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tom,
I just reviewed your thread and saw the video. My hat is off to you for your attitude. She needed to fly and not be a "hanger queen". Your SBD will never be replaced for the reasons you stated. Thanks for sharing your talent and heart with us.

Will look forward to your next project when your ready


Pete


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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/23/2004 8:48:57 PM   
NE0



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Status: offline 		Paul,

Yeah, both print and multimedia each have their pros and cons. Getting new media to run right on "everyone's" PC can be a nightmare sometimes... too many variables. But, I've been doing the print stuff for about 25 years and am just plain tired of it.

Thanks Pete, glad you liked it. The time will come again, just not tomorrow. I'm gonna work my way back up to a "scale" level of projects first. Start with a big heavy warbird ARF, and work on my flying skills, then start easing myself back into the serious builds. Maybe some "consignment" detail jobs in the interim?

Cya,

Tom

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/23/2004 11:16:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Tom, maybe you could do Shrek III !!!

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/24/2004 12:23:00 AM   
NE0



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Status: offline 		LOL... a bit outa my league mate.

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 8/24/2004 12:45:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey you could put JG and crew into it, call it the adventures of Sniper 41 and the quest for the dasdarly jap ack ack gun lol

hehehehhehe

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 1/21/2005 6:29:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		NEO, I tried to access your site. 404'd. Whazzup?

edit--sorryl should have tried a bit harder. Bates SBD

So sorry to read you lost her. Shocked actually . At least you have great memories.

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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 1/21/2005 9:02:11 PM   
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RE: More progress on my Bates SBD! - 1/22/2005 12:16:13 AM   
NE0



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Status: offline 		Try the new address Maudib listed above, the direct link to 41 Sniper is now...

http://www.hangar37.com/SBD/index.htm

I'll be pulling the old site down alltogether soon (and add a redirect)... just haven't gotten around to it.

Thanks,

Tom

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