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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 11/23/2008 5:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I went to my local hobby shop and told him to order me the quark w/o transmitter. Heliproz has a killer price but I feel strongly about supporting the local guys. He is kind of a guru with the electrics, and got me into my first T-Rex. He offers great service it would be sad to see him close up shop because of the big guys, so I buy from him when ever I can even if it's a little more expensive. He also stocks the spare parts for the Quark so I'm sure I will be visiting him when I go through my blades.

I am looking forward to getting this heli. The shop owner demoed his for me and it looked very capable. I know this is not a 3D flyer and the blades a asymmetrical but has anyone tried a loop with one of these?

I also spent some time at the sticks on my T-rex. Still practicing nose-in flights. I am gradually getting there but it's slow and painful. I went through two tail booms, 4 main blades, three landing gears, a stripped servo, and busted horizontal stabilizer today. LOL. Oh well.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 11/23/2008 6:45 AM   
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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 11/23/2008 8:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I did a FFF nose up tip stall to loop, and came around about 270 degrees, but the gyro corrected the tail and it "finished" the loop, but it was not a true loop. It has eluded me sofar with this heli.

Still fun as hell to rip around with it. I was flying hard yesterday and it was 13 degrees outside and it was a bit windy. I'm getting the CF blade set, I really want to see if they make a big difference with the advanced control settings. THe stock settings are fine with the foam blades, but when I really push the heli, it tends to cone out the blades and just want to "see-saw" into a stable hover..... which is good from a recovery stand point, but bad if you are tying to do something freeky with a heli that is designed to be as stable as possible at all times.

Brice, you make good stuff for Custom RC cars, you will appreciate the quality Im sure I too support the local guys, but when the local guys dont carry what I want or won't get it, I am forced to go elsewhere. I brought my Quark to 3 of the LHS, and they all drooled over it after they saw how good itwas, but still..... "STICKER SHOCK" scares people so they dont carry them..

Such a loss when I see HELIMAX CX and CPs comming back an hour later "broken" and I fix them for people and all I can do is say "its what ya get when you buy a 150.00 TOY..."

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/6/2008 1:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Quark’ys:

Thought I share a little beginners flying with you, after all that’s what is all about…

Let’s see your maneuvers too!

Hirobo Quark Indoors 1
Take off- Check Tracking/RPM LED on - Trough tight pass -
Level flight - Steady circles to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOeBo7_9Ec


Hirobo Quark Indoors 2
Steady circles to the right then tail in circles -
Sideways closer to ground level – Underneath the table!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUg6Qnr085Q


Hirobo Quark Indoors 3
Strait and then backwards - Trough doors - Ground hover - Bed landing on one skid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnkI9Gi5yZg


Hirobo Quark Indoors 4
Slippery take off – Fly back trough doors - Tight coffee table landing (between cup and book)… Bye/Bye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h98sOj0RBMg


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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/6/2008 4:35 AM   
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After reading all the very positive statements in this and other forums, the Blade CX2s are gone and the proceeds from those sales have sped on theri way to a friendly Quark dealer. It should arrive in time for Christmas. As we got a dump of over a foot of snow today, it will have a nice soft landing area for its first outdoor flights!

Seriously, I am delight and so looking forward to the Quark.

I do think we should go further as loyal Quarkers. What about "colours" - you know, black leather vests with badges and such. Or jackets?

Now, I know nothing of crystals. I assume that these come with the complete Quark and hope that no one else is using the default - 49? How do I change this if such becomes necessary??? Who sels crystals? The local New Age Store? Hack out your own?

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/6/2008 6:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		ha ! love the excitement Willow !

You may not want to land it in the snow. all the motors are exposed, but "crashing" in the snow will hurt less for sure.

Crystals can be purchased at any hobby shop. One in the TX one in the RX. The RTF Quark comes with them and will really "FLY OUT OF THE BOX".... with no adjustments needed.

just be sure to read the instruction manual. There is some stuff you need to know in it.


OH, and Santa has a set of the CarbonFiber blade set comming for me also I gotta know how well it will fly with them (or suck!)

ps: Send some tht snow here, Im boarding on MANMADE still.... need some freshie!

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/6/2008 6:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yogi, yeah thats Greg. He is the person I got my Quark from. I get my spare parts from him too as he is a Hirobo dealer. Those batteries are great!. They just barely fit inside the stock cage, but I like the stock Hirobo battery too. I get 5 more minutes runtime with the slightly higher powered aftermaket battery.

The CF blade set comes with TR also. Its not a big deal to replace the stock foam parts with the CF. We all usualy have busted blade parts lying around anyway hahah.

I break most my main rotor blades right where they mount to the blade grips hopefully the CFs eleminate this.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/7/2008 12:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Greg is also supplying my Quark. We had a nice conversation this morning and I plan on getting any needed parts from him , especially the batteries.
As to colours and such, there is actually a place on the Web that will take any drawing you have and reproduce it on all sorts of things. Is there a cartoonist in the group? A person who can draw a nice cartoon of a Quark and its serf? Think of the wonderfujl t-shirts we could all have.

I noted that one fellow had mounted up navigtion lights on his Quark. Neat and not heavy on the weight either. I love that idea. Now where would one make the connection? One of the videos that made me so interested in the Quark was oen showing a Quark whipping back and forth over an apartment parking lot. Fantastic. The camera thought is one that shall be tested. The FlyCAmOne2 weighs in at all of one ounce, not bad. The Quark is only six ounces. Hmmmm. Well, next yeaar I will try it anyway - the camera is useful in any number of other ways.

As to batteries, the charger for the Quark is one thing, but will it work on the batteries from other suppliers. If not, what charger are you all using?

It snowed a lot yesterday setting a record. As is now normal with global warming, today it is raining. No doubt enough to drive city managers to drink! Tonight it shall freeze and we can watch the cars play on some of the main roads - such fun. Such it will continue all through the winter. Gone are the two months or so of -30 and colder. If this continues it should be rather tropical here (In fact, this area - northern Canada - is one of the few to "benefit" from global warming. Longer seasons for crops and enough water to grow them. The problem being, the rest of the world starves...).



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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/7/2008 3:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow the lights look way cool! Wilowarune your the man for our Quark logo insignia.

Ok some technicality's, please don't get bored!

1. Things to watch over (I don't want to say it will happen to you, it did to me and her is how I fix it):

A) The main gear, which in my first Quark became lose and then it shred in the inside part (part #2532-031 see manueal pag. 32).
It was a headache's to determined what was happening, everything was running and turning but the main mast was slipping. I guess Hirobo took note because my second heli did not have this problem and there is an extra mention, that was not, in the earlier manual.
So if the motor is running but there is little or no lift of power (it makes a weird sound), check the main gear metal ring, thigthen it, if it still slipping - change it (do not use glue to fix the metal and plastic part's).

B) The Tail drive shaft ASSY (part #0302-013). I have shredded four or five of these (good thing there only around $11) after some time the head is devour by the tail gear and left turns start getting more difficult, tail huntig begins and the unit becomes difficulty to fly.
I have not spoken to the MRC team about these but I sure wish they wold have provided metallic gears for the tail and maybe a bit more powerful corless engine. I recall Blink (at Runnryder) having a similar problem I think.

What I am doing now is to put plastic grease on it, I will report on whether this slowed the chewing or not. So far it seems to be a little better.

This is why I stopped laminating the tail blades so the gears wold not have the extra stress of a heavier blade.

Dave, this will be the main issue for me as you fly it with the carbon fiber tail blade. I'm really interested to know what happens.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/8/2008 1:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I took a look at my heli today, no gear wear. Indeed the weight of the higher rotating mass of the blades may make a slight difference in tail gear wear.

I need to lubricate the motors, but not sure what to use as a reliable motor cleaner that wont eat plastic, and also to lubricate the berrings.
Im Approaching Flight # 40. YAY !

The HIROBO battery packs are unique to themself. They have a sealed case and pin point charger ballance plugs that are protected by a rubber boot/gasket that you move out of the way to slip it down into the charger base. It is a ballance charger, but utelizes no plugs.

While they are expensive, I've found them to be very very good quality.

As tot he secondary market batteries, I use an E-flite charger and also one from a no-name company that came with a plane I got from Nitro-planes and it works well with a 1200mAh AC/ charger adapter.
To be honest I rarely use the second non-stock Hirobo battery, I get 12 minute flight times with the Quark with stock battery, and I always let the motors cool between flights for atleast 5 minutes if not longer..... I use the spare pack then when its used up (17 minutes later) the Hirobo pack is almost charged. THe spare aftermarket pack however takes 1.5 hours to charge if I drain it down to cutoff voltage.

Im looking for scale bodies for my quark now. I modded the Eflite CX to it, and it looks "ok" but I really want to get my hands on a Hirobo AIRWOLF fuse that they came out with for the Quark exclusively in Japan.

Oh, and that apartment complex flying.... definately a "Decision making" influencial video for sure ! It really does fly like that right out of the box after a few tiny changes to the settings in the RX/ TX.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/8/2008 4:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dave, for lub:
1. I used the regular Tamiya (as in the RC cars) grease for the plastic tail gear it stopped the munching and apparently did not eat away the parts ethier.
-Nothing for the main gear and regular lube/grease for the bearings.
2. I just bogth Thunder Tiger special plastic grease for gears
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/10435
and have 5 or 6 batteris on it... so far so good.

I agree the Hirobo LIPOS are super, I sometimes forget to take them of the charger for hours! Never had a problem.
Thanks for your comments on the You-Tube video, I'm still a beginner (and it shows

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/8/2008 7:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Guys!

Just a note - Willow is a girl (actually,an old bat).

Not just guys play with helis....

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/8/2008 7:12 AM   
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QUARK ARMY ACCEPTS ALL !

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/8/2008 9:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wilow we welcome you nice feminine energy (you old Bat He!) but still you got the colours proposal job!

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/16/2008 6:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, it's not here yet - but soon!!!!!

It is -30 or so outside, so the mail has no doubt slowed due to the season and weather. But SOON!!!!

We have a front porch and the thought came to me that a landing pad would be nice. 24" by 24" and screwed to the right angle corner. Perfect! Then I can stand on the porch and fly up and down the block. Noted that some have changed bodies and upped weight by three ounces without effecting flight, so a one ounce FlyCamOne should work just fine for video. That and the navigation lights - a very simple set of those arrived today thanks to the Buy/sell forum here - made for the CX2 teh instructions saqy to simply plug into the AUX or "open reeiever portI'll let you know if they work.

So right now I will wait again for the postie to show up. QUARK ON!!!!!

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/17/2008 9:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah joy! The postie brought the new QUARK today...

I am resisting temptation. Firstly, the excellent manual must be read and absorbed. Lots of material and as a non-mechanical type, it will take me a bit longer. Ditto for the decals - I might decide to paint the canopy and want to waitt until that decision is made.

The presentation of the heli is excellent. Good packing, excellent manual, and overall very good in all ways. The size of the heli was a surprise - smaller than the CX2 certainly yet everything about it seems perfect.

A question. On the four-in-one, there are three AUX outlets. What are these used for? Might I use one of these for navigation lights? If so, which one - or does it matter?

So, now the study of the manual and heli itself. A lot to learn before I take off!!! Just looking at the wonderful bird is a pleasure...

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/18/2008 7:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no idea what the aux can be or are used for.

If a set of scale running lights can be put on it, that would kick ass.

Ive been combing the Hirobo site, but not finding anyything.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/18/2008 9:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		It seems to me that if the makes put AUX 1. 2 & 3 on the four-in-one, they must do so for a reason, especially when the unit was designed especially for the Quark. On another forum, the same one which shows the flashing lights installed, the pics also show the lights plugged into AUX 1. I'll try to find that page and post it. The alternative would seem to be
a "Y" in the power line for either motor.

Amazing looking closely at the Quark and the thought that was put into it. The little bumps on the skid, the air holes for cooling the motors, the complexity of the rotor and the well written instructions. The only part that looks rather toy-like is the transmitter supplied. It may work well, but it does look like it was thrown together as an afterthought in the cheapest possible way. a few pennies and it woudl look much better and more in keeping with the heli.

Some time ago, I was on a business trip to South Korea. At the manufacturer, I saw a car radio and asked if I could buy one and the price. The price was under $10 for a unit that markets here under a brand name for over $250. Why? The first exporter doubles the price, then the second. Add freight and another double. The importer doubles, the distributors double and on it goes until you get a big increase in price, like doubling on a chessboard. The means of assembling the parts is also different. Various plants mold plastic parts and fabricate any metal parts, or are bought in large lots and distributed as needed. Little shophouses scattered about the city (shophouse - a place with teh maikn floor open to the street for work, with living quarters above for owner and staff (on the top floor, up more stairs) do the sub-assemblies, relying upon parts delivered to them often by motorcycle. These sub-assemblies are either shipped (also by motorcycle) to another shophouse or the final assembly factory. Look at any electric type product and the actual cost of materials is tiny. The cost comes from the doubling of price by the various parties along the way. A lot of tghe factories are now robot centered, with rows and rows of women now out of jobs. I saw a plant that exported cassettes in the process of change. There were many women assembling cassettes in one room, and two robots being tested in another. The women would all loose their jobs as the robots got onstream. Not Japan, but certainly in Thailand, China, Taiwan (mostly) and other third world places.

The Chinese manufactuers who continue to send me e-mails with great deals are trying to go direct, and keep the pricing high so they can get most of the profits that otherwise go to a long list of exporters and importers. A deal for one unit can earn more than 100 units sold in the normal channels. That is one reason why co-op operations can cut costs, by buying such products with brand naming and importing directly. Do it by the container load and then price "in sympathy" with competing products so the price gap is there, but not as great as it could be.

Such fun. Japan is different and I am certain the Quark costs far more to make than the Chinese copies.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/18/2008 9:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I could not find where I got these photos so apologies to teh photographer, but this is how one fellow hooked up navigation lights...

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/19/2008 5:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		1, Congrats on your bird!

2, Where do you buy the lights, it looks good using the AUX, the interesting part is getting the hardware

3, The TX is no frills but works well, the fell in the controls is sturdy yet soft with nice tension. I flew it with a JR XP6201 and it did not improved (still had gliches here and there with interference or bad RX) and I did not like the stepped controls (I keep getting stuck and the pushing to hard) . The overprice on electronics!!! Oh... as you said.

4. Here is something that might save you some money...

A) Radds heli scholl (a must): http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

And blade laminating guide...

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/19/2008 7:49 AM   
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Here it is as promised!



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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/19/2008 5:26 PM   
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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/19/2008 8:47 PM   
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Thanks Wilow, please check it when you can, it seems to be working now.

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/24/2008 6:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey! I just looked at teh Quark foam blades and teh "racing blades" for a CX2.

They look very similar. Has anyone used these special plastic blades on the Quark. They dio fit on the same mounting pin. If carbon fibre ones work, what a bout these?

I think I might try it later...

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RE: Hirobo SRB Quark Forum: Photos Q&A - 12/24/2008 11:58 AM   
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