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ORIGINAL: adder

I have had two planes crash in the past two weeks. They both suddenly dipped a wing and headed earthward on final approach to the strip. Wind direction was the opposite direction on second crash so it occurred at opposite end of runway. First crash was from low altitude and I had no chance to try any saving stick movement and I put it down to tip stall of something like that as it occurred at end of turn into runway approach.
The second happened further out and from other end, plane was on straight descent to strip when the problem occurred. This time I had time to try something but found there was no response from any control. It was definitely unbound. Both planes had satellite receivers fitted as per instructions.
I had made a new transmitter case foam interior for my new DX8 and had cut the foam with the antenna straight.
Guess what? I had not bent my antenna.
Thinking about it the landing approach is one time when the straight transmitter antenna is perfectly aligned to plane so all our club who saw the crashes agree with my summation that they were 'pilot error' with the error being not bending the transmitter antenna. Also another club member now remembers having a strange unbind with his DX7 when flying with straight antenna.
Bend it!

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ORIGINAL: Josey Wales

Since this is the direct support forum, how bout we wait and see what Danny has to say ?

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ORIGINAL: adder

Ok I obviously did not explain this position properly. Transmitter in my hands was almost horizontal with antenna pointing slightly up and towards landing model which puts the antenna sharp end perfectly in line with plane. I meant loss of signal which causes receiver to temporarily unbind from tx and which takes a bit too long to re-establish contact, I erroneously assumed readers would understand this. I probably hadn't paid too much attention to ''failsafe position'' when binding the receiver though. Something to watch in future.

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Secondly, it is important to get used to using the correct terminology.

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ORIGINAL: adder

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Secondly, it is important to get used to using the correct terminology.

Maybe for you!
I'm afraid I'm a laid back Aussie and frankly Scarlet etc. etc.

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ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey

Pointing your antenna at the plane is no big issue at the ranges we fly, and certainly not on landing approach.

You can read all about dipole antennas and the ''cone of silence'' theory but I've done testing at very extreme ranges with a datalogger and could find very little difference.

When I say ''extreme range'' I'm talking large sailplane at the edge of being able to see it.

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ORIGINAL: adder

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Secondly, it is important to get used to using the correct terminology.

Maybe for you!
I'm afraid I'm a laid back Aussie and frankly Scarlet etc. etc.

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Some of us spend a great deal of time trying to help people find the solutions to their problems. I think if you took the time to search RCU, RCGroups, and ****, you would find numerous threads that have already discussed the antenna placement issue in great detail. I have seen articles on Horizon Hobbies web site explaining the answer to your question, with pictures and diagrams.

Many people who post on forums like this one misuse the terms Link and Bind. It only leads to misunderstanding and confusion on the part of the person asking the question, the person trying to provide the solution, and anyone following the thread who has a similar problem.

If you are not going to attempt to communicate clearly then perhaps you are not serious about finding an answer to your question and just out for a joy ride.

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ORIGINAL: adder

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Some of us spend a great deal of time trying to help people find the solutions to their problems. I think if you took the time to search RCU, RCGroups, and ****, you would find numerous threads that have already discussed the antenna placement issue in great detail. I have seen articles on Horizon Hobbies web site explaining the answer to your question, with pictures and diagrams.

Many people who post on forums like this one misuse the terms Link and Bind. It only leads to misunderstanding and confusion on the part of the person asking the question, the person trying to provide the solution, and anyone following the thread who has a similar problem.

If you are not going to attempt to communicate clearly then perhaps you are not serious about finding an answer to your question and just out for a joy ride.

Sorry buschbarber but your last post is way out of line and totally inaccurate.

1. I did read RCU forums on the topic , a point you should have picked up on as I added to an existing thread which I found while searching RCU.

2. I DID NOT ask a question.....perhaps if you read my first post you will see there is no ? in it. It was merely an observation to which did not need an answer.

3. Joy ride?? I was trying to help. I did NOT ask a question.

4.I did make a comment about 2 crashes that I thought would be understood by all reasonable people who read them and might prove useful. It was you that took offence to the word bind.

Actually you KNOW you DID understand what I was getting at but chose to chip me when there was no need. I would humbly suggest that you confine you ''help'' to those who actually ask a question.
It did nothing to advance the thread only annoyed the cr*p out of me. I have no problem with anyone questioning my observation (as BarracudaHocky has) and suggesting another cause but you certainly have not done this, only gone on about the correct terminology of a word that even you understood the meaning of.

The point was..... If your antenna is straight and you hold your transmitter semi horizontal and point it at your model when landing, you might find the receiver loses (bind?? communication, link, signal ) with transmitter and your plane might crash.
With the antenna bent this wont happen as you should NEVER have your model directly overhead.
See no question only an observation.