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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 2:51 AM

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RR, this is for you buddy! I apologize for being out of touch for a while, everyone. We have had our hands full with moving into a new building and going through prototypes of different things, yada yada. We finally have the SPOILER where we think it needs to be for production to kick in. We wanted to wait and spill any beans after we were certain that the quality of this ARF would match what Jerry and all of you guys build from scratch. The wing is a very unique piece of art and things like reflex and wash in/out are very new to the ARF manufacturers overseas. The quality of this airplane is undeniable. Light ply throughout the fuse, very little balsa yet very light. They nailed the wing and we will be test flying the final prototype this weekend, weather and time permitting. We started working on the manual tonight, as well. I have a framed up Spoiler that Jerry built and I am glad I never finished it, as we had a solid piece of evidence to compare against. The wing is incredibly strong. My dad put all of his bodyweight against the leading and trailing edges, compressing it fore and aft, while twisting and it doesn't budge. Needless to say, we are tickled pink! Check out the pics!!!!! If this model flies like we know it will, production will begin immediately!

You guys are the first to see this...

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 2:59 AM

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A few more pics.....

The final setup is 2 aileron servos per wing half, 1 elevator servo per stab half, 1 rudder in the fuse for pull-pull and two different throttle servo locations for engine variations. The wing tube is super thick and very long, which is good on a plane with this much area. The landing gear is HEAVY DUTY. This final ARF prototype is much stronger than my scratch built version and weighs close to a pound less and mine isn't covered. It's gonna be awesome!

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 3:09 AM

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oh... and by the way, the SPLAT scheme will not have the SPOILER lettering applied. All of that jazz will be on a decal sheet.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 12:18 PM

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Would love to see the pictures of the new spoiler but nonr of them would open

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 12:37 PM

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yellow dog they all opened for me and look good.

thanks for posting chris, i had given up on you. how long do you think it will be before the arfs should be built and delivered if the proto types fly ok? i am just wondering how long it takes the factory to get them built a the a few weeks on a sloooooooooow boat. is the wing set up to be a two pc or will we glue the wing tube in?

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 6:43 PM

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how long do you think it will be before the arfs should be built and delivered if the proto types fly ok? i am just wondering how long it takes the factory to get them built a the a few weeks on a sloooooooooow boat. is the wing set up to be a two pc or will we glue the wing tube in?

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It's hard to say, but we have made a huge leap forward. All I can do is go with what I get, as none of it is predictable. This isn't a speedy process. From here they have to be built, covered, QC'ed, packed, shipped to their local port, inspected there, loaded into containers and put on a boat, land here, customs inspects, transferred to freight handler and shipped to us, we receive, inspect and put our manuals in the boxes.

The wing is a 2-piece and can be permanently joined if someone wishes.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/15/2008 8:53 PM

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Looks great Chris, I like the ideal of a 2 piece wing makes it easy to haul. I hope that Jerry gets a prototype soon and we can really check it out. That will be a great weight if the proto is lighter than the uncovered one that you have. Will be great with a OS120 if the weight is 10lb and under. Hope that they are on market soon. Kenny Colson

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/16/2008 3:29 AM

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Yeah,that would be a great weight,i have NIB Wildstik 120 but considering waiting to build if the weight on the new spoiler is the same,might even sell it!!!!

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/16/2008 12:41 PM

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cameron724, go ahead and build the wild stick and have fun they are good flying planes. the spoiler is much better but the stick is fun. remember i have seen you union city guys fly, by the time the spoilers get here the stick will be dead. haha!!!
i thought i was going to fly my repaired spoiler last night but had a servo gear broken. thought i had a replacement but it was bad too. i'm going to pull one out of my funtana and try to get it flying today.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/16/2008 1:11 PM

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I (we) appreciate your confidence in our flying skills,maybe its cause we ring them out or maybe we cant fly,one or the other.I will probably go ahead and build in a few more weeks when funds arrive,having to much fun with the EF yak since its seems to be running properly now.You need to come back down and fly sometime randy

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/16/2008 1:39 PM

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haha!, you guys at union city have skills but the brain power is low. you guys do crazy stuff and i love it.
we have the demo day at paducah on the 26th you guys need to come. the demo part will be over around 1:00 and then we will just fly till dark.

this week end we don't have any plans so we need to get together, have your people call my people and we can do lunch.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/17/2008 4:05 AM

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Well, did you re maiden the spoiler re-encarnated? WE are awaiting word from one last person on our tree situation and if he doesnt deciide to cut them,we will have to store our planes for a while and brake out the chainsaws!!!Then my people will call your people lol

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/17/2008 1:10 PM

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i didn't get to maiden the spoiler yet due to servo problems but i hope to get that resolved and the spoiler flying soon. i hate not having a spoiler to fly. i have burnt a bunch of fuel through the 35% extra and have been flying it a lot better. it helps to fly only one plane or type of plane but i still want my spoiler back.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/18/2008 4:13 AM

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well i finally re-maidened the rebuilt spoiler tonight and it was as good as new. i sure do feel better knowing a spoiler is setting in the trailer ready to go.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/18/2008 12:52 PM

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i just talked to Gimble Bender and he is spending way to much time flying full scale these days so he is selling his spoiler ready to fly less receiver. it was built by a local builder and flys great. he is getting me the list of goodies that are on it. he is wanting 975.00 for it and has over 1200.00 in it. any of you spoiler / bigboy guy interested pm me.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/19/2008 2:45 AM

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well were waiting for the list you old slow poke. glad to here your's is back in the air. also glad to see that east rc has the ball rolling a little bit.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/19/2008 11:28 PM

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me likea what me see. bring it on, baby..yeah!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/20/2008 2:14 PM

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I realize this is somewhat of a personal preference, but where do you guys like to place the CG best on your Spoilers?

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/21/2008 12:35 AM

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i just talked to Gimble Bender and he is spending way to much time flying full scale these days so he is selling his spoiler ready to fly less receiver. it was built by a local builder and flys great. he is getting me the list of goodies that are on it. he is wanting 975.00 for it and has over 1200.00 in it. any of you spoiler / bigboy guy interested pm me.

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As Randy mentioned, I am entertaining the idea of selling my Spoiler because I have so little time to enjoy it and have other financial obligations to meet. (no, Randy, not flying full scale) So, here is a list of all the options. I prefer to sell it turn-key and the price is firm. I don't mind selling it but I'm not willing to give it away. If no one takes it, I fly the crap out of it myself when I get some time off from work!

O.S. 1.60 FX ringed with a Bud-Light "harvest" can/pipe. (clocked 10,400 on Randy's tach. Book calls out 4.8 or so HP at 9,000)
Mejzlik 18X6 carbon fiber prop. (Gave 54.00 for this prop from Desert Aircraft)
Futaba 9151 Digital servos in the tail. (one on each elevator half and one on the rudder)
Futaba 3305 servos in the wing (4)
Futaba 3003 or whatever a standard servo is on the throttle.
It sits tall on JBB stock landing gear with four bolts into the fuselage.
Enine is mounted on a custom backplate mount that some of you may have seen on Randy's bird. (credit goes to Chris for it's design and fabrication)
Fromco 2400 mAh lithium-ion "relion" battery
Fromeco "the regulator" regulator
Fromco "badger switch" with charging port.

The plane has never been crashed or had the gear ripped out. I did kick, and ruin, one elevator half when it was new but TimG was nice enough to build me a replacement. The engine is low-time and has never given me any trouble, other than normal needle adjustments.

I think thats about it. If I think of anything else I'll add it here and post a note saying I've updated this post. If you have any questions, e-mail me at ironcross05@gmail.com as I don't check these forums much. Or Randy knows how to get ahold of me.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/21/2008 1:48 AM

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I fly wildcrashwilly's spoiler this past weekend and I am hooked. I really liked it. Gonna have to get one of my own.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/21/2008 2:42 AM

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TWEEK, sorry i didn't post faster but i had to measure my C of G today at the field. mine is 6.5" from leading edge of the wing and slightly tail heavy. i would start at aprox 5.5" and adjust to your own prefrence. i have had it back over 7 " but didn't like it.
hope this helps.

did you guy test fly the new proto type this weekend?

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/21/2008 12:13 PM

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TWEEK, sorry i didn't post faster but i had to measure my C of G today at the field. mine is 6.5" from leading edge of the wing and slightly tail heavy. i would start at aprox 5.5" and adjust to your own prefrence. i have had it back over 7 " but didn't like it.
hope this helps.

did you guy test fly the new proto type this weekend?

rr

Thanks Randy,

We will probably fly it in a day or so. Been up to our ears in work, and getting ready for an open house/street party at East R/C & Scootworks this coming Saturday, so free time has been a bit short. I'll post pics and such in a few days.

Thanks!
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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/21/2008 12:32 PM

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tweek, i think all of us understand that you have a business to run and a lot of things to do and we all feel for you, BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST!!!!!! we need spoilers fast and we are waiting on you!!!!!! JK... spoilers that are built right and light are worth waiting for so keep up the good work and keep us posted.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/22/2008 5:02 AM

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My CG is about 6 and a half back from the leading edge. Flys great there but the flat spins really improve when the fuel tank is half full or below. With the tank full it will fall slightly during flats but with low fuel it will spin stationary and I can even coax it at times to climb during an upright flat spin. Hey Randy, did you notice? I think Mike from Murray is hooked on the Spoiler now so East needs to get those arfs out.

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RE: Spoiler/Big Boy family and friends - 7/22/2008 1:50 PM

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mike is hooked, well almost everyone that flys a spoiler is hooked. i have let a bunch of people fly mine at fly-ins i go to and everyone loves it. the only think i don't like about spoilers is that the arfs are not here yet. haha!

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