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28% extra - 3/9/2008 5:49:58 AM   
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I am looking at the WH extra 28%. I love the red, yellow and black color scheme. I was just wondering from people who have/had one how it flies. I will probably be doing imac/3d with it. Will it do good in both of those catagories or one or the other. I have been looking around at different planes and realized that the WH extra had a pretty short wing span compared to some of the other 50cc'ers out there. Is there any disadvantages related to the wingspan? What servos would be good for this plane? Should I go to the top with the Hitec 5955 TG (found a really good deal) or should I just got middle of the road servos. And what motor (first gasser)- Spend the money with DA or save money with DL.

I realize this is all personal opinion but and help is great!

rc-plane

I would ask this in the Giant scale 3d/aerbatic forum but I kinda get tired of them trying to tell you the get the EF type planes. There great planes but to expensive for me...(teenager so not a lot of $, I cold save longer but....)

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 6:00:55 AM   
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I am looking at the WH extra 28%. I love the red, yellow and black color scheme. I was just wondering from people who have/had one how it flies. I will probably be doing imac/3d with it. Will it do good in both of those catagories or one or the other. I have been looking around at different planes and realized that the WH extra had a pretty short wing span compared to some of the other 50cc'ers out there. Is there any disadvantages related to the wingspan? What servos would be good for this plane? Should I go to the top with the Hitec 5955 TG (found a really good deal) or should I just got middle of the road servos. And what motor (first gasser)- Spend the money with DA or save money with DL.

I realize this is all personal opinion but and help is great!

rc-plane

I would ask this in the Giant scale 3d/aerbatic forum but I kinda get tired of them trying to tell you the get the EF type planes. There great planes but to expensive for me...(teenager so not a lot of $, I cold save longer but....)


I'm currently buildingthe 28% Edge (see my build and mod thread). IMO, you can't go wrong with the killer deals on Hitec 5955TG servos - I just ordered 5 of them. The plane will fly fine with lesser servos, but I would at least get metal geared servos for sure. I'm going with the Brillelli 366GT (60 cc on mine, but many people are happy with the combo engines - and the DA is of course, a great choice.

The W/H Extra and Edge are very popular airframes - I would get one if you can!

Keith

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 6:02:55 AM   
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Thanks,
BTW I was looking at your plane earlier, it looks GREAT I cant wait to see it finished!

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 6:06:44 AM   
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Thanks,
BTW I was looking at your plane earlier, it looks GREAT I cant wait to see it finished!


Thanks....I have always had great respect for the quality of ARF covering.......but now I have an even greater appreciation of the quality and value of ARF's after attempting my re-covering job. I am giong to enjoy having something different, but it hasn't been a "fast" build!!!

Keith

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 6:08:51 AM   
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I have only covered one plane. And it was a Sig SSE (kit) that a club member just gave to me. It didnt turn out to bad but I have respect for anybody that can cover good.

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 1:29:32 PM   
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rc-plane.
Great first gasser and it won't cost you a bucket full of money to get into it. There is more information than you will ever need to know in another thread on the Wild Hare support section. Here is a link to the first page of that section: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4588189/tm.htm. If you look somewhere around post 355 you will see a picture of my Red/black/yellow Extra. Great plane and still flying.

As to engine -- your choice. Tom has some good deals on the 3M53cc engine and from what I read it runs really good. There are also a lot of pretty decent deals on used DA50's out there on RC Universe. Mine has a DA50 and I couldn't be happier with the power and service from DA. Servos, you can't beat the price out there on the 5955's over the long run, but you can get by with a lot less servo on this plane if you need to save a few bucks up front.

I don't think you can go wrong on this plane. My only suggestion to you is to be very conservative on your control throws for the first few flights. The control surfaces are very effective and you don't need a lot of surface deflection to really throw this plane around the sky.

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 3:15:20 PM   
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Although the Extra may have a slightly shorter wing span than some of the others on the market it flys as well or better as ones with more span. The way Tom had designed the wing shape and plan form more than offsets the slightly shorter area. Many have commented on the fact that the 28% Extra and Edge fly like they had a much larger wing. Both are floaters and both will respond instantly to control inputs very accurately. In 3d rates both will come alive like nothing you've ever flown before. Big planes that handle with the agility of a much smaller one when desired for 3d, but stable and accurate for precision when flown with that purpose.

Great flying planes at a super value. You can't go wrong.

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 4:27:20 PM   
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thanks these comments really helped!

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RE: 28% extra - 3/9/2008 8:52:59 PM   
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Extra would be a very good choice I feel. Very capable bird.

Servo's, not necessary to use the 5955's (unless you have them) if you still yet to buy you can get away with 5625/5645/5985 985 etc.

The 3mm 53 Tom sells is a good performer and cheap enough on price..

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RE: 28% extra - 3/10/2008 12:58:40 AM   
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Since we introduced the first real 50cc arf back in 2003 our competitors have been trying to find a way to one up us. One thing they have done is build planes with slightly larger wing spans. This looks good in an ad, seeming to be bigger and somehow better. I get people asking all the time about this.

We actually dropped the Yak 80" simply because there was resistance to 80" wingspan from people who had never flown one. You would not believe the idiotic converstaions I have had on the phone. Firs tone guy calls to say how much he loves his Yak with a DA-50, immediately followed by somebody who is telling me that the plane is too small, wing loading will be too great, it can't possibly be any good.

So when I brough out the Sukhoi at 85" span, I got plenty of calls telling me that the competitors' planes are all 87" and that has to be better. Rather than fight it, I made the wings a little longer. You cannot tell the difference between 85" and 87", but one cannot fight with human nature.

So EF made a new Yak that was 88" and now H9's new one is 89". In the military this is called mission creep.

But I digress. The Extra is 84 for a reason. It's exactly the right size for a good 50cc engine. You don't need a bigger wing. Nobody who has flown one has ever made any comment about not enough wing area.

It's possible to have too much wing. The plane will tend to not handle well in the wind and will be harder to land since it wants to fly along at low speed close to the ground, rather than settling in before the runway runs out. If this was not true them all the 50cc planes would have huge giant wings. But they don't.

It's all marketing.

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RE: 28% extra - 3/10/2008 1:09:22 AM   
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RE: 28% extra - 3/10/2008 3:37:59 AM   
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I fly with a guy that flys an 88" EF Yak. He can't figure out why my 28% Edge can out tumble and out waterfall his Yak.

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RE: 28% extra - 3/10/2008 4:00:18 AM   
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I fly with a guy that flys an 88" EF Yak. He can't figure out why my 28% Edge can out tumble and out waterfall his Yak.


I still think that 88" EF yak would be perfect for an 80cc engine. That HUGE cowl just begs for a 26" prop...

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RE: 28% extra - 3/10/2008 4:06:09 AM   
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Should I go to the top with the Hitec 5955 TG (found a really good deal) or should I just got middle of the road servos. And what motor (first gasser)- Spend the money with DA or save money with DL.



I usually get a 5955TG for the rudder servo (they are easy to find for $89 or less) and use JR Sport 126MG for the ailerons and elevators. Excellent servo for $35 or less, and they center better and have less slop than my Hitec 5645 and 5625 servos (despite being analog). The 126mg servo has a gear train almost on par with the 5955 as well. Very tight, no centering issues, and they are strong and fast enough for my planes.

The DL or 3mm engine will be perfect for this plane.

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