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.o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 12:38:49 AM   
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is the price of .049 right from cox 6.99 hope so have not seen this only on controlines since the 60's is this price right or what do you have to imput
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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 12:42:22 AM   
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Yep, the price is correct. I purchased two of them a couple of months ago. I installed an AP carb on one of them.

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 1:04:41 AM   
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Price is right, but they are out of stock. No one is too sure when they will be available again.

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 1:42:06 AM   
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Pictures! I want a Show 'n Tell about this...

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Yep, the price is correct. I purchased two of them a couple of months ago. I installed an AP carb on one of them.


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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 2:01:46 AM   
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thanks for replys would like to know more about this engine what fuel is required and what size planes it will propell. thanks for all infornation received so for

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 2:16:59 AM   
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Two VERY successful planes for the $7 Sure Start are ptulmer's Das Not Ugly (DNU) and rainedave's Sure Shark. A forum search here will turn up several builds, as well as a few videos. Oh, how could I forget? The Postal Plane Project stickied at the top of the forum page is using a Sure Start as well! But of course there are many, many more planes that will fly just fine with an .049 reed valve engine, from gliders to trainers, to warbirds and pylon racers... depends on wing area and all up weight of course. For what it's worth, I recently converted a Parkzone J3 Cub to a Cox .049 and at 15 oz, it flew like a scaled cat.

All Cox engines love fuel with medium to high nitro content (15-35%) and a fairly high oil content (20-25%) of which should be mostly castor oil.

Hope some of this helps,

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 3:19:10 AM   
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I spoke with the folks at COX models today, 3/11 -- they expected a delivery of additional engines by mid-March.

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 3:20:35 AM   
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I have purchased more than 40 of them at that price. Just ordered 10 of them this week. They were selling for about $29.00 a little more than a year ago. Cox has stopped making fuel (gas) engines. So these are closeout deals, I called about 2=3 months ago they said they still hade 30,000 left but with everyone selling them on e-bay for $10.00 or more plus some hobby shops also selling them some day they will be all gone.

They are a great sport engine for RC or C/L from the factory they spin a 6x3 prop about 12,000 to 13,000 rpm on average. That means you have about 9 = 11 oz of static thrust. With slight modification you can easy get over 15,000 rpm which is about 14 oz of thrust. anything from 10=20 oz should fly ok with them from 100=250 sqin of wing area. I fly high wing plane at 12 =14 oz and the make good fliers.

These are good little sport engines, and well worth the $7.00 but almost everyone that I have bought needed the piston reset. You can find out about that by doing a search on cox piston reset. They will usually work without a reset, but you add years to their life by doing so, and if you modify them to get more than 18,000 rpm they won't last a long time without a reset of the piston

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/12/2008 4:08:11 AM   
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quote:

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Pictures! I want a Show 'n Tell about this...

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Yep, the price is correct. I purchased two of them a couple of months ago. I installed an AP carb on one of them.




I'd like to see this as well!

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/13/2008 4:31:31 AM   
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At 6.95 each this is the cheapest way to get a standard cox glow plug and it comes with a free engine!! I bought four and also stashed some 09 stuf and I couldn't pass on a NIB texaco and NIB black widow each for under $50.00 at a little hobby shop.
Replacement heads that use standard glow plugs are nice idea as well cause the plugs for these little motors are getting rarererererer
Hmm may have mispelled something back therererere

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/13/2008 6:08:20 AM   
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quote:

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Yep, the price is correct. I purchased two of them a couple of months ago. I installed an AP carb on one of them.


I'll get in line to see that too.

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/13/2008 8:56:21 AM   
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Count me in too! Let's see this thing!

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/13/2008 11:36:20 AM   
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Yep, the price is correct. I purchased two of them a couple of months ago. I installed an AP carb on one of them.


Thats what Tim W. was doing..puting a carb/venturi on the back,making space bee's or hoppers which ever term it was...maybe rr clones,,anyway its been done..he did make a different back plate for it though....Rog

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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/15/2008 2:18:35 AM   
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Propjobbill,

I love these little engines and have bunches of them. Been flying them for years. If you don't mind sharing your secrets, I am dying to know how to get a surestart to rev up to those rpms with a 6x3. I have polished the cranks, smoothed out the inside of the case, enlarged the venturi, used the galbrath head and still don't get near 15K rpm. It is driving me crazy. I placed an order for a Hyper Color engine ( to get a decent reed engine) some months ago but I understand that Tim Wiltse is going through a rough patch, I wish him the best.

Please, I know that many of us would love to here how to get surestart engine up to 18K! If you would be so kind as to share your knowledge.

Thanks in advance,

Pat (also in Ohio)


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RE: .o49 engines by cox - 3/15/2008 4:09:29 AM   
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First of all I can't get 18K with a 6x3 prop. I have been using a 6x2 APC prop for those rpm. I'm not sure how much I can get from a 6x3, but I am thinking maybe 15,000. In a few more weeks I will be able to get back to testing if weather permits. The biggest thing that I do is remove the back plate, remove the spray bar, and reed assembly. I chuck up a 3/16 drill bit into the drill press, and drill very slowly from the reed side to the opening where the spray bar goes through. It is very thin and narrows where the spray bar goes through. If you go to fast it will crack the opening. Apply pressure from the needle side of the spray bar when removing the spray bar. If you try from the other direction it will also crack the tube, (I learned this the hard way). I use pliers and caution, I tried pressing the spray bar out. If you apply pressure to the bar without support for the tube it can snap off. After I clean up all the openings from small plastic shavings the drill leaves I reinstall the spray bar. I then carefully open the chock tub in both directions to 3/16”.

I use about 30% fuel for high rpm, I also reset the piston. That’s the first thing I do. Drilling out these openings give me between 2,000