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Gearhead3 -> Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/15/2008 5:04:30 PM)

Spitfire 90

Enjoy 90-size big scale flight. Retracts, flaps and detailed camouflage color scheme recreates the famous SPITFIRE spirit.

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The legendary WWII fighter credited with the protection of England at the height of the struggle has been recreated as an impressive 90-class model. Elegant elliptical wings and the rounded form has been immaculately reproduced down to the finest detail with retractable undercarriage and split flaps that also replicate the function of the original Spitfire as well as its form. While the large size produces a calm and controlled flight style, the throttle can be opened up to generate the agile stunt flight of a fighter plane. The sporty flying characteristics will suit intermediate to advanced fliers. As the fuselage is mostly pre-assembled with detailed camouflage scheme also complete with printed film, the model exudes quality workmanship all over. Spectacular through the air and as a display, the SPITFIRE 90 recreates the romance and drama of history.

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Features

• Main components are factory assembled so only a short time needed to finish.
• Features lightweight balsa structure. Detailed characteristics of the shape are recreated in the pre-built fuselage.
• Pre-covered in wrinkle-resistant high-quality lightweight camouflage-print film.
• Printed film also replicates the partition lines of the outer planks and hatch in a highly detailed finish.
• FRP cowling complete with coloring.
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• Large wing area of the elliptical wing generates the low-speed stability of the original SPITFIRE.

Contents

• 420cc Fuel Tank
• Retractable Landing Gear
• Tail Wheel
• Tires
• Linkage Parts

Required for operation

• R/C System / 7-channel, 8-servo (2 each for ailerons and flaps, 1 for retracts)
• Engine / 2-cycle 90-class, 4-cycle 110-120 class
• Propeller / D15 x P18 - D18 x P6
• 95mm Aluminum Spinner
• Fuel, engine starting tools
• Batteries specified for R/C system
• Glue

Tech data

Length...........56.5"
Wing span.......71.7"
Weight...........9.9lbs (approx.)
Engine............2-cycle 90 class (sold separately) , 4-cycle 110～120 class(sold separately)
Wing Area.......60.28dm2
Wing Load.......79.62g/dm2 (approx.)
Wing Type.......Original Semi-Symmetrical
R/C System......7-channel, 8-servo (sold separately)

Available End of March `08



vasek -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/15/2008 8:28:39 PM)

is this like advertisement? [&o]



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/16/2008 2:42:06 AM)

The nerve of some.......



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/16/2008 3:31:04 AM)

Well, here we go! I just pulled my Kyosho Spitfire 90 out of the box. This is a pretty big airplane. :)



perfectplanes -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/27/2008 9:53:39 PM)

Does any one know what on line dealer is carrying this spitfire?



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/27/2008 10:03:07 PM)

try vision hobbies dot com, or roco usa dot com




NoFlaps -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/28/2008 3:08:43 AM)

SO HOW'S THE BUILD COMMING ?
HAVE YOU FLOWN IT ?[8D]
WHAT PLANE OUT THERE WOULD YOU COMPARE THE arf TO REGARDINMG QUALITY, EASE OF BUILD/ FLYING ETC?



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/28/2008 4:48:28 PM)

I had the Kyosho Spitfire 40, and it was gorgeous...a PITA to build, but pretty. It didn't like it when I slammed the throttle, inverting itself on its maiden take-off not even 4 ft off of the ground...and then again about 20ft off the ground. Both times there was a violent snap-roll and the spinner ended up pointing the wrong way. Saved it both times.
It also didn't like low-and-slow w/ no engine. That one I didn't save[:(].

Been looking at getting a Spitfire for my Saito 100. Would that have enough power?



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/28/2008 5:36:24 PM)

victorzamora , you must have done something VERY wrong with that spitfire. I can shut the engine off in flight, and the airplane will glide forever.

NoFlaps, my assembly has come to a halt. I am waiting on a power plant, which has not arrived yet. The Spitfire 90 requires very little gluing, so assembly is quick. The Wing can be taken apart at the center, and the horizontal stabs can be taken taken apart as well. Great for people with small cars, who want to fly a big airplane. :) I will post up some pictures later of the wing servo installation.



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/28/2008 5:52:13 PM)

I had it in the closest thing to a harrier a warbird can do [:D]. I was also 10ft off the ground, with the tree-line not even 50ft ahead of me...and I had a slight tail wind. I agree, it's all my fault...but it still hurt. Oh, and the CG was a little off[;)].
I hadn't been introduced to 3D yet, but I knew what I wanted to do.



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/28/2008 10:10:23 PM)

that would be funny, a spitfire hanging on the prop.......



NoFlaps -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (3/29/2008 2:09:53 PM)

Nice to know the wing comes apart...I drive a Mini Cooper [:)]



wildswan -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/1/2008 10:40:33 PM)

I've just these cheap in the UK, apparently the first batch hasn't fuel resistant covering. <g>



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/1/2008 10:44:39 PM)

if the wings come apart....and it has retracts....how does that work?



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/1/2008 11:07:23 PM)

The retract servo is in one wing half, not in the center.



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 1:08:53 AM)

So what's the set-up procedure for retracts every time that you go flying? I've seen one servo per wing half, but that's just stupid. I mean, a plane that big should just have air retracts...IMHO. So, how does that work?
Gorgeous plane, regardless!



kahloq -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 1:22:03 AM)

Mine is nearing completion. I put a saito 125 in mine. Yes the wings do come apart if you want, however, myself, they will be epoxied together. I dont like the idea of having to set the retract set screw(s) on the landing gear each time I would have to put the wings halves back together. The horizontal stabs also can come apart and are held in place by two screws each side(underside of the stab). Again, on mine, they will be epoxied in place as I ahve no desire to ahve to connect the two elevator servo horns each time i go the field. Would be problematic for keeping the trims right as well. But it is possible. I do like that the horizontal stabs are airfoiled and not flat liek the H9 planes.

The cockpit area is tiny though. I'd say its the same size as the Hangar 9 cockpit area)have this plane) and the forward portion is just as flimsy and brittle. This kyosho plane is a 1/6th size, but there is no way your going to fit a 1/6th pilot in there unless its just a simple bust. The cockpit is too narrow to put in say the British pilot made by Dragon(or any other 1/6th figure). Even cutting a Dragon pilot down well above the waiste area, the shoulders and arms will not fit inside the cockpit side walls well at all. You might make it fit, but he'll look way oversized compared to the respective size of the cockpit as a whole. I was kind of disapointed at this. As such, I am having to use a 1/7th size pilot bust and it fits fine and looks right respective to the cockpit area. However, it doesnt look as good as a Dragon figure which some of my other planes of this size can fit no problem. The KMP ME-109 is one example. The H9 spitfire also could not fit a 1/6th size figure, but then that plane is a 1/7th anyways.
I dont think its so much Kyosho's fault. Its just the plane itself. The cockpit is narrow period. Must have had a good deal of cramped shoulders or short pilots back in the war.



kahloq -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 1:26:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: victorzamora

So what's the set-up procedure for retracts every time that you go flying? I've seen one servo per wing half, but that's just stupid. I mean, a plane that big should just have air retracts...IMHO. So, how does that work?
Gorgeous plane, regardless!


The 1.50 size P-51 from Hangar 9 has mechanicals with full oleo struts better then most air retracts and yes one servo per wing half. Its not stupid at all and that plane is significantly bigger then this Spitfire. The setup works extremely well on that plane. However, one servo per wing half on this spitfire would require some cutting. Myself, I dont think its practical to keep the wings in two pieces due to exactly your concern of how much of a pain it would be to reconnect(and reset) at least one landing gear linkage each time you go to the field.



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 1:46:59 AM)

How much do they charge you for the retracts they include with that plane? Then how much do you spend on servos for the retracts? If you use the JR791 on the retracts (recommended by most) it's $120 ($60 per servos) plus $65 for the retract system. That's nearly $200. For $225, you can get the Century Jet Retracts made for a Mustang. Century Jet retracts are also some of the most renown retracts. And that's $225 for a whole system.

I don't know, that's just my opinion...I'd rather have a great set of air-up/spring-down retracts than mechanicals anyday. Again, my opinion...but I'm entitled to it. Sorry about calling it stupid, the retracts it comes with ARE pretty. Plus, calling anything stupid normally just insults someone. It just didn't make sense to me.



kahloq -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 2:25:10 AM)

I had thought about putting air on the plane, but....the included mechanicals seem ok. They also do not require two servos....so its not $120. Plus, you are not spending an additonal $65 for the retracts as you listed. In the case of the H9 P-51 1.50, they come with the plane also....I listed the $63 just for reference in case someone wanted to put them in whatever plane they like. They are quite functional...and if a plane can fit them...Id much rather use those then air anyday simply because there's no air tank...no pressure loss, no fill port, etc. A lot cleaner and it looks just as good as any air setup with oleos. I have several planes with air retracts as well and I like them fine too.
This spitfire, the mechanicals also come with the plane. So, the only thing you need is one jr791 for $60 for this spitfire. Of course, yes, if you want to keep the wings in two pieces abd also install two servos, then $120 sure...but not required at all.
Btw, you didnt insult me and I didnt take any insult to your remark. I was just pointing out how they are feasible to use.



victorzamora -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 3:03:05 AM)

I meant the $63 dollars that you buy as part of the plane. Horizon charges that to buy a pair, so I'm assuming (though I know it's not correct), that they charge you that on the P-51 150 ARF. The H9 P-51 150 does require two JR791's. I was talking about the mustang when I said it kind of needed air retacts. It's got over a foot more wingspan than the Kyosho Spit. I think that plane, that's that big and that requires two servos SHOULD have air retracts. Again, that's just me though. Sorry about the confusion, but my opinion is on the P-51 Mustang 150 from H9...the Kyosho Spit is just fine with mechanical retracts. Obviously, air retracts would be nice too.



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/2/2008 4:17:31 PM)

Robart makes the best pneumatic retracts IMO. They also make retracts that are proper for a Spitfire, and other warbirds.



Gearhead3 -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/6/2008 5:04:19 AM)

does anyone know who makes the best pilot bust for a Spitfire?



kahloq -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/6/2008 11:12:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gearhead3

does anyone know who makes the best pilot bust for a Spitfire?


This is a british pilot bust. Better looking then the one available at hobby-lobby.com
http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4353



kahloq -> RE: Kyosho Spitfire 90 1/6th scale (4/7/2008 6:02:06 PM)

Ok...well...here is mine. Some people will not like the color scheme change.....and thats ok. This is close to an accurate rendition. There were several dozen Spitfires captured during the war that were flight worthy or repairable and one of them even had the Merlin removed and replaced with a DB 605-A1 daimler-benz since it produced 150 more HP then the Merlin. The 605-A1 was used in the ME-109G.



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