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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 4:03:14 PM

jtnktz

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Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!

Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?

Piston stopper:
http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product477.html

Or some people put string down in the cylinder and jam it but I do not like the idea of putting something in my engine.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 5:43:22 PM

hellya

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Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).

the head kit is $55, the heat sink is $99 ........then use the stock 23 cy that comes with the KM

engine started and runs great

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 7:59:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: jtnktz

Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).

the head kit is $55, the heat sink is $99 ........then use the stock 23 cy that comes with the KM

engine started and runs great

Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 8:53:52 PM

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Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?

Thats the price for the head kit and heat sink.....now if i seize up the piston or ring I take off the heat sink, I can reuse it over and over

.the entire head kit is only $55 yes ported rated at 4hp http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product1658.html

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 9:17:05 PM

jtnktz

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Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?

Thats the price for the head kit and heat sink.....now if i seize up the piston or ring I take off the heat sink, I can reuse it over and over

.the entire head kit is only $55 yes ported rated at 4hp http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product1658.html

Will it work with the CY23?

Fits CY29RC engines or other engines with +2mm stroker if the cylinder is modified or a .040" copper gasket is used.

Will I need to buy a 2mm stroker?

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 9:25:22 PM

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nice upgrade..goin to have to get me one too..then. first need to sell my 2 engine and get 2 new engines

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 10:07:22 PM

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Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!

Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?

If you use a new or old gear, place on the pinion and spur gears so to lock them together, then you can remove the hex screw in the pinion gear. Sometimes you have to lever the spur gear off!

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 10:33:56 PM

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Will it work with the CY23?

Will I need to buy a 2mm stroker?

Yes, thats what I used the stock 23 cc CY thats comes with the KM, no stroker needed

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This kit can also be used as an air cooled cylinder head, if the Darksoul heat sink is used. In this case, these top ends will also function well as replacement top ends for Zenoah G230RC/G260RC, and Chung Yang CY23RC/CY26RC/CY27RC/GP290

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 11:13:41 PM

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I am terribly disappointed.

My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.

Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.

Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?

Thanks.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 11:42:38 PM

hellya

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you sure you got a km or the km clone??

my clone moves have had no issues.....I own a SS too

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 11:43:48 PM

rckiwi

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I am terribly disappointed.

My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.

Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.

Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?

Thanks.

Yes that is correct they do not have the adjuster system that the Gen baja has in the shocks, but of course you can fit gen replacement shock kits if you want, and even better replace with the up graded 6mm shaft type.
You must remember with any "Copy or Clone" it will not be the same as the original! and the price of a KMS baja really says that! the money you have saved can be spend fitting up grade parts that you want to! and really when you look at all the companies selling up grade parts for the Gen baja do you think that is 100% good?

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/20/2008 11:47:39 PM

hellya

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I wonder why most of the HPI baja owners up grade their shocks to phattys

is it because the stock shocks are great.....No they suck

Thats one of my first upgrades I did on my HPI SS ....phattys and wheel extenders....Open your wallet...welcome to the money pit that all 1/5 hobbiest have fell into

heres a HPI Baja bent shock

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/21/2008 1:45:30 PM

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I have the KM baja - from v*tec.

I have drilled the shock pistons trough the existing holes with a 1mm drill. I am using 25wt in the front, 35wt in the rear. I was lucky to find 4 orings in my pit box. I used those to create better seal.

Are u guys sure that the HPI shock piston parts (85412) are compatible with these shocks?

Thanks,

Edit: Noted that the pull-start doesn't have a metal recoil ring as some of you have.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/23/2008 9:12:43 AM

hellya

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Anyone want a KM baja......want it today???....Go to walmart

Seriously...talk about distribution

thats alot more exposure than Hpi will ever get.

The market will flood

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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures - 5/23/2008 9:20:55 AM

rckiwi