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RE: King Motors Baja Review wi... - 10/6/2008 3:56:38 PM   
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Awesome baja. You should take some easy-off (oven-cleaner) to those last few purple parts though, take'm back to silver.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review wi... - 10/7/2008 5:18:13 AM   
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Just incase your not sick of pictures of my baja yet, heres some more with the custom body kane did for me, with some hostile mx nobby tyres









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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/7/2008 5:04:20 PM   
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Hows this for buying direct from kingmotors.

The price has gone up 50 usd for a ksrc-001 but they are using cheaper screws and fuel line so on, to cut cost, and they are not put together as good as the first ones we all where, fair enough we are still saving 500 bucks on the hpi rtr.

One customer brought 8 bajas through me 1 had a faulty rx after 5 weeks of of sending pictures and emails blah blah, im told they finaly kingmotosa have sent the rx, still yet to receive it, and they didnt even under stand when i was trying to tell them the crytal number was 22, i would like it to match the tx, so they say they send me a 40 mhz or a 27mhz lols fair enough just send a 27 meg.

I was funny as after sending 2 email about the faulty rx with pictures as requested nothing happend after 3 weeks and a reminder email i was told this was the first they heard of this problem i have had with the rx and they need pictures again well i sent it again after they said it was the first time they heard of it.

Another baja had a fualty rx with new battries in the tx and a full charged rx the car would travel around 10 meters then take off, the car was damaged luckly not main chassis damage, i asked for km to send another rx and ill send all the replacemnt parts from my stock to fix the baja, its been months now a still no rx, i had to buy another baja send the guy the radio and sell the baja with out the radio as it was the only way i could get the problem fixed.

In the last couple of weeks there has been 2 faulty throttle serovs thats not common you would think straight out of the box.

There also has been some faulty steering sevos straight out of the box unused, no worries it only cost me 150 aud express shipped to buy the customer a hpi mg steering servo and a radio box so they can get the steering servo c braket out of the hpi radio box kit. kingmotors ask for pictures of the faulty products, well they look the same as a new one they dont look like theres any thing wrong, untill you plug them in and you here the clicking, no worries ill give up and fix that myself.

A few heads have come loose in the first couple of tanks i recomend all nuts and bolts should be redone befor use but you shouldnt have to.

I have been finding, buggies have been sent with broken bodies, and have had poorly packed spare engines and pipes shipped with the bajas, the bajas get here with broken bodies and broken chokes with bent choke shafts, even bent drive shafts ??? i dont know how you get a bent drive shaft on a unused baja ?? no worries ill fix that.

Tell kingmotors of the problem and remind them to pack things a bit better, they ask for pictures so send pictures, kingmotors says no worries they will fix, and they never do.

I brought a fair few ksrc-002 will alloy wheels as told to me by kingmotors we all now know they have plastic wheels, even after kingmotors swaering black and blue yes shane alloy wheels, well that stuffed up a couple aussie sellers with that one including me lols.

No problem it just cost me money to fix that one fair enough, its easy to see how you can confuse alloy wheels with plastic wheels right ?.

Then customers order ksrc-002 and kingmotors send them ksrc-001, ouch well ill fix that but it cost me money.

Kingmotors also sent customers ksr-002 when they only payed for ksrc-0001 lucky buggers they end up with an 02 for the price of an 01 sweet for them. but it cost me more money.

Then kingmotors will not send out ksrc-002 to customers and will only send out kscr-001 to my customers who have payed for ksrc-002s cause they acidently sent 02 to the others they dont tell me this, and think its fair, well thats cool, it only cost me $350 aud to fix each mistake and i feel sorry for the customers.

kingmotors admit they made the mistakes, and said they will refund me the difrence i have payed, well they havnt refunded me, and are refusing to refund or help me in any way even since they admit they have made a mistake and have already said they would. refund.

Now they have changed there story again and are being very dificult, and i bet my left nut ill never see a coin out of the buggers.

I brought a second ksrc-001 for my self a couple months ago the left front wheel nut was cross threaded realy bad and the nut was that out of wack it wasnt funny, i have used spares front hexs so not to bad, the baja run out of the box but was tuned way to lean, no worries i can fix that no biggy, if i didnt know what i was doing the engine wouldnt of lasted long not to mention the head bolts came loose after 4 tanks, no owrries my fault for not redoing them with locktight.

Last week a customers baja arived with loose shockie caps and an dead engine, the poor guys, it was so far out of tune it wouldnt start, this is getting very common, they dont seam to be put togther like they used to, mabe they are under the pump to get the bajas out fast, fair enough, i understand.

I have had a couple customers waiting over 25 working days for there bajas befor they are even sent, fair enough kingmotors are realy bussy, i have been giving refunds and or sending bajas from other supliers, to speed things up, as it only cost me more money.

I orgainze a baja to be sent from another supplier in austrlia and payfor it out of my own pocket, and ill get that baja that we have been waiting for a month sent to some one else, kingmotors say they cant be bother and just send them to my home adress, so i have to resend them again across the world or across australia at my own cost when i have already payed 145 usd in shipping to kingmotors, fair enought ill cop that as its alot of stufing around, for one baja and its not realy worth it, and i know its hard for them to copy the adress from an email i have sent them, but they ask me to email my adress so they can send the buggy to me so i can send it to the customer lols fair engough that only cost me 140 aud each time.

I have given up on wait for some bajas to be sent out, and have brought them at full price from other sellers

I can handle the fact that kingmots has cost me well over $3000 aud in the last 2 weeks alone, its only money that i dont realy have to waste not to mention all there stuff ups befor the olympic,s, im still infront ? im not game to add it all up.

I can even handle the fact that kingmotors has lost $1500 usd of payments, no worries can happen to any one, i was more pissed that my bank charged me 25 aud to do an investergation, just to tell me yep kingmotors has your money.

This list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but ill finsh up with this

Today i recived a ksrc-001 for a good friend of mine, it was missing the chrome pipe, missing the battery cover on the tx (radio) and a major bent front shockie and a cracked body, the shockie can be fixed, the body will be replaced, but the missing battery cover for the radio ffs well thats it that was the last straw that broke the cammels back. I didnt dare looking inside the radio box, my mate has taken the baja home now, i hope to hell its not missing any thing else, as i will be booking a flight to china, to drop in to km and say hi.

Mabe i just have pissed off kingmotors but I know its just not me as there is some other aussie sellers that where promised alloy wheels and also have had some dead bajas sent and or have have a few bent or broken parts, and dickie radios, so i know its just not me. even a friend of mine brought 2 dirsct and has had problems with them another friend brought 20 direct its been over 4 weeks and tey have not even been sent.











These pictures where taken as soon as the baja was taken out of the box, it was not run at all, as the bloody thing wouldnt start as the all 3 carb screws where that out of wack it wasnt funny no worries fix the shock, tape the batteries into the battery box and retune the dam thing, i can handle the bent shock, i can handle the missing pipe, i can handle the retune, the the missing battery cover on the tx is just a piss off.

Ive been getting asked is it worth buying direct ? well i dont think so in my opinion at this time, i think your better of getting them loacal and paying a bit more, and letting the seller absorb any defect,s problems or missing parts, as thats the only way you will get warenty, just dont ask me to get you one, as im finshed with kingmotors thats it, ill cut my loses and walk away while im still infront, i will even go afar as saying buy hpi, aslest youll have a better back up and they have a qulity control and some sort of warnety.

Im not having a go a km im just voicing my opinion and sharing my expernce that ive had in the last couple of months only im not sharing my hole exprence ive have with kingmotors as there has been to many mistake to list.

If you where to ask me will i be buying any kingmotors bajas in the future well the answer is NO ! cause if you send a company more money then most people earn in a year you would think they look after you wouldnt you ? lols dont be stupid.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/7/2008 6:51:02 PM   
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I still think it is worth buying direct from KM, We are lucky My wife's uncle lives in Beijing and he is the Chine manger for Santa Fe-Beijing. he travels to the KM aera once every two weeks. so we are lucky enough to deal in person with them and make sure we get what we pay for. we have got the price down a great deal by dealing direct. Thanks

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/9/2008 11:28:22 PM   
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got a question are hpi baja 5b parts compatible with the king motors baja thanks

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 12:11:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hostes

got a question are hpi baja 5b parts compatible with the king motors baja thanks



yes

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RE: King Motors Baja Review wi... - 10/10/2008 12:39:49 AM   
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Just got a KM baja off Ebay, overall quality is there, except for the Tx/rx which I trashed. I put my Spektrum rx in, added gas, fired up on the 2nd pull after the initial choke pull. Ran it for all of 45 seconds and it died, and have yet to get it to refire. Im getting good spark at the plug, getting plenty of fuel almost to the point of being flooded. I am sure the needles are all out of whack, unfortunately the manual included doesnt have anything concerning proper needle settings. Anyone know these?

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 1:16:13 AM   
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I think come xmass time I will be doing a rebuild for my KM. I have not used it in a while and I really miss it. It just needs a new pull start. But come December I think Ill be getting a zen26 along with a ddm dominator and a few other things.

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 1:24:12 AM   
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quote:

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Just got a KM baja off Ebay, overall quality is there, except for the Tx/rx which I trashed. I put my Spektrum rx in, added gas, fired up on the 2nd pull after the initial choke pull. Ran it for all of 45 seconds and it died, and have yet to get it to refire. Im getting good spark at the plug, getting plenty of fuel almost to the point of being flooded. I am sure the needles are all out of whack, unfortunately the manual included doesnt have anything concerning proper needle settings. Anyone know these?



L- 1 1/4 turn out, H- 1 3/8 turn out

Those are the carb setting for a the Zen 26cc...but the Cy should be close if not the same



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I think come xmass time I will be doing a rebuild for my KM. I have not used it in a while and I really miss it. It just needs a new pull start. But come December I think Ill be getting a zen26 along with a ddm dominator and a few other things.



you'll love the Zen..I have had zero problems since I put mine in, and it sounds great with a Jetpro pipe.




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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 2:16:50 AM   
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factory carb setting for the km and hpi baja are

L needle 1 & 1/4 turns out (gently srcew the low need all the way in the screw it out 1 & 1/4 turns out)

H needle 1 & 1/2 turns out (gently srcew the high need all the way in the screw it out 1 & 1/2 turns out)

when tuning or retuning always adjust the low first then the high then the iddle needle after you have gone back to factory setting.

and always use a clean airfilter when tunning or you will get a slightly ritch tune and then once you do install a new clean filter it will run to lean.

if you km will not start after being used check that the kill switch isnt jammed slightly in as this will stop them starting, this is a common problem if your not running a rubber kill swiitch cap.

its always best to check for airleaks and what not befor go nuts with a screw driver and retunning.

as i have sugested befor down load and read this hpi rtr manual as it has all the info you need, carb setting, part numbers and so on for your kingmotor baja, as the km baja manual if very basic.

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/instr/10600/10600.pdf

hope this helps

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 2:15:26 PM   
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Thanks again for the replies and awesome information, once I got everything sorted out and reset the carb it runs kinda slow. The needles were 4 full turns out, that explains the flooding issue. I cant for the life of me getting the low speed bog to disappear, Im coming from nitro so I dont know if thats normal or not. Also is the KSRC Dominator clone pipe a good buy or would I be better off getting the DDM dominator for twice the price? Im looking for a best bang for the buck option as ive spent a lot of cash lately on guns( Long live HK!)/RC cars, and I would definitely hate to have to try and slip another $150+ past "the warden" aka my wife. Also am I right in saying that the GP290 big bore kit will fit the KM baja? Im almost 100% sure I read that earlier, as 30 pages of thread kind of jumbles together in my little peasized brain. Also has anyone elses KM vapor locked? Mine wouldnt fire and acted like it wasnt getting fuel, I unscrewed the gas cap and heard a clear hiss sound indicating an issue. Is that because of my carb settings or do I need to get a vented cap for it? Thanks again for reading through all my jumbled thoughts, random questions and general stupidity. For that I must say THANKS!

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RE: King Motors Baja Review w... - 10/10/2008 6:32:53 PM   
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The factory setting are just factory setting (starting point) you can tune them slighty leaner for more speed less bog.

With the stock exhast that comes with the bajas, you will never be able to tune the bog all the way out, infact you can run then to lean trying to do this as a little bog is normal with the stock pipe.

The kingmotor dominator, is good bag for the money as it will make more difrence then day to nite in power, speed and no low end bog, the ddm rear dominator has a slightly larger expantion chamber and is a little heaver the larger expansion chamber will give a smaller increase in power, but its upto you if that small about of extra power in the ddm dominator to the kingmotor dominator is worth dobble the money, most of the guys i know run the kingmotor dominator pipe and have been very happy with the power difrence, i have used and have owned both and i would lean to the kingmotor baja pipe cause of the money difrence if i had to buy them again.

The gp 290 head kit will bolt straigh on to the km baja bottom end.

The fuel lock problem is very common and has nothing to do with your carb setting it to do with fuel tank venting, the best way to fix that is to drill out, your fuel tank vent (very small hole in the fuel tank lid) about 3 times bigger and this will stop the fuel lock problem of the bajas running for 1 to 20 mins and cutting out, all bajas i get my hands on i drill the lid or tell people to drill the fuel tank lids out, if this becomes a problem, withc it normaly does.

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