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rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/24/2008 3:41:34 AM

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had a rookie flying beside me a couple days ago, he's had two flights in his pocket....totally fresh off t he training cord. anyways he was trying to do fancy stuff like very low fly bys and inverted flights and you name it. for the experienced guy what he ws doing was minor but for him heeeeeeee was biting off a bit to much. so his dad told him to take it easy, told him he was a bit too gutsy. he said that he was getting bored already and that it was no challange. i said to him if your able to fly inverted a few feet off the ground then you can say your good. we fly on a farm with lots of buildingas and trees so there isn't room for error. so the smarty pants decided that he was gonna do it 50 feet of the ground and impress us........well he forgot he was inverted after flying inverted for 500 feet and was gonna go straight up.............buuuut guess where he went,,,yepper straight down and into a roof.............and lets just say his plane was totally disintagrated. i tell you that really say him on his rear. now he doesn't own a plane anymore. and yeah i had a great laugh, and was able to hand out a pat on the back too.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/24/2008 12:09:55 PM

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Being challenged is one thing. Knowingly flying above your limits is another. The arrogance and inexperience of youth will get ya every time. And you're right, it IS funny, expecially after he was warned. Reminds me of a saying: "Never give advice. A wise man doesn't need it and a fool won't heed it." He's learned a hard lesson that will, hopefully, stick with him throughout his R/C career.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/24/2008 3:16:39 PM

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Ahh I remember thinking I could loop out of a low inverted pass.. If it had only been 1 foot higher..

Oh well. call it a forced graduation to a more capable plane..

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/24/2008 4:23:38 PM

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Been there -done that !!! & Don't EVER, EVER say, "Hey, watch this!!)

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/24/2008 9:34:37 PM

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He's learned a hard lesson that will, hopefully, stick with him throughout his R/C career.

You mean like "When flying low and inverted, down is up, and up is expensive"?

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/25/2008 2:46:30 PM

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Ahhh yes.... I remember when I got my Hangar 9 P-51 PTS Mustang and got tired of it, so I changed the little whimpy servo arms with 3D arms and set the throw rates to maximum. I took it to the field and everyone knew what I was going to do so I calmly took off, proceeded to do a few calm maneuvers and then I got a little too brave. I hoveed the mustang for 30 seconds and pulled out. I thought I was doing pretty good cause the guys were pretty shocked at my plane, so I tried to do a flat spin....Not a good idea. I flat spinned from 300 feet straight into the ground nose first. I only flew the plane 3 times. Jeff

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 3/25/2008 4:42:18 PM

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Ah! The joy of going too far !!!!! A buddy gave me his 300 that he had run into a fence. He don't like flying anything that's been crashed & repaired. His loss- my gain,right. No, his loss, -my loss. After spending a week repairing & some minor covering. I took to the field to show the guys the plane. It looked better than it did new! On the maiden flight, I couldn't wait for help to trim it out. NOOOO, I wanted to do it right now. Long story short, I couldn't feel the trim lever for the elevator, sooo, I looked down at the TX ( just for a second !!!!) Talk about a rookie screw up. It took me 4 hours to find it in the magnetic cornfield. Oh yea, it wasn't repairable this time. One second = loss of about 15 hrs work & they will Never let me forget my 1 minute flight.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 4/28/2008 4:07:58 PM

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I was helping someone learn to fly one day, but it was more of a hot-potato with the Tx than a calm lesson. He completely lacked coordination, had no sense of direction, and, worst of all, was conceited. He got into a really bad situation, I reached for the transmitter. About the time I started reaching for it, he jerks it away from me...well hidden on the other side of his body.
Needless to say, he was in major doo-doo. He screamed "I'm not gonna crash!!" The way it was timed was impeccable, as he crashed between the words "gonna" and "crash." He said the whole sentence as if he had saved it. He then dropped his transmitter along with a few 4-letter words.

I was laughing pretty histerically as he made the walk of shame. He had been telling me about him wanting to solo the next flight, but he couldn't even fly solo for a whole lap. He said he had even practiced incessantly on the simulator, and was really good. He walked up to me after he had his splinters settled and asked if I'd help him with his next one. My answer was only if he promised me two things: 1) He'd make me laugh as hard next time and 2) he'd let me destroy his plane next time he got sick of it. I did help him, and he did eventually solo...and I kind of feel bad about it, but it's not really my fault. I couldn't help it, can you blame me?

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 4/28/2008 5:46:25 PM

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I did a lot of those things, and it cost me a bundle!

Later, I watched one of the guys who trained me working with a 15 year old. Training with a buddy box, the instructor was forever taking control. I watched a while, and the kid would try a loop or roll as soon as he was given control. Instructor would save it, and say "Well, now, this time just try to fly straight & level, and make a turn at the end."

He'd give the kid control, the kid would fly straight for about two seconds and yank full stick one way or another. Sequence repeats. After a couple of those, the kid had trouble finding an instructor, never did fly on his own.

Ah, youth.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 5/8/2008 7:05:39 PM

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Everyone speaks so lowly of the arrogance of inexperience, and forgets about the jaded complacency of experience.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 5/9/2008 1:43:38 AM

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Hahaha, I most definitely agree Gereke. Very nicely stated!

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 5/9/2008 6:32:07 PM

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A newbie i was helping along had been doing very well, I was more like the observer rather than instructor, it wasn't going to be long before he was on his own.
So, here we are at the old Long Bay Modelers field in Myrtle Beach (early 90s, just after the gulf war part 1) and if you flew there you know about the sewage plant on the inland
side of the active... you can see where the story of this day was heading :-) ok, newbie shows up, unpacks and sets up its all looking good and i'm thinking he could get his solo today.
About 5 minutes into the flight he wants to do some touch 'n go's, sounds good the wind is calm, he sets up for some left hand pattern work, right over the sewage plant of the end of the active
normally this is not a bad thing but today was a maintenance day for the grease separator at the plant and parked atop the berm, dead center of the runway, sits a large metal dumpster. "No problem just come in a little higher" i said, newbie says "ok". Here he comes, wings level nice long final maybe -150 fpm, its looking great. Then just as his approach angle steepened, his ears stopped working "a little throttle, raise the nose" nothing.... 1... 2... 3... "more throttle, raise the nose"... 1... 2... 3.... "left on the stick, throttle, raise the NOSE" It was fairly quiet that morning, the sound a 40 size Avistar makes while impacting a grease filled steel dumpster is surprisingly loud. Shocked for a moment, newbie turns around and says "i thought i could make it, i didn't listen to you" He did get his solo not long after, on the same plane.

JB whereever you are, thanks for the memory

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 6/2/2008 8:17:41 AM

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Never give advice. A wise man doesn't need it and a fool won't heed it."

I think I like that one!

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 6/2/2008 9:30:21 PM

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hahahaha.................................. rookies

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 6/2/2008 9:38:04 PM

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lol thats a familiar story. I had a similar incident at my local field. We fly at a farm east of town, 500 acres of open field, no trees as far as you can see. My student, an idiot no matter how you saw him, decided that he was gonna land his Eaglett .50 on a down wind leg, which is something that we are all good at because the north end of our runway borders a really busy highway. Keep in mind this is fall and the harvest is happening as well. So, this newbie has likely the nicest downwind final I have ever seen when all of a sudden he pours on the power, makes a left turn at the thresh hold and just as he crosses the piano keys heading across the runway, slams into the combine that was cutting the hay near by. His luck wasn't quite as good as your rookie's was lol...........

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 6/3/2008 12:27:26 AM

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At my slope a nine year old kid had just maidened his Zagi after spending about an eternity in a simulator or so he said. SO, the local hotshot pilot launches his multi thousand dollar slope racer and everyone lands their planes to watch. So after a while the kid gets bored and says he is going to try an Immelman turn. He launches his Zagi, and then the slope racer passes three feet from it, screeching like a banshee, in a death dive that did not seem to end. It did not. The pilot was screaming, telling people to shut down their radios. And the kid didn't. They had the same frequency. So then the guy shouts at the kid, who had just landed his Zagi and was busy laughing about the crash. And then the kid gets angry because people are blaming the incident on him. He grabs the arm of the guy who had just crashed his racer and bites him! The guy swings the kid off, and goes up to him with his Zagi... and promptly breaks it on the kid's head.

Quote from the pilot: (I was just teaching him the pain of breaking a plane.. f....k kid)

Lol this is really funny. The kid came back six days later with a brand new fibreglass warmliner with a huge outrunner up front. Guess what happens. The guy who had lost his racer turns on his radio and the kids plane goes down. LoL.

Poor rookie never came back. Although once I saw him at the Nitro flying field with a beatiful P-51... In pieces. Utterly destroyed. Anf I laughed so hard I couldnt breathe.

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RE: rookies, don't be smarty pants - 6/3/2008 1:13:41 AM