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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 7:16:45 PM   
combatpigg



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Do any of the frequent posters here ever fly or have time to build?

Pictured below is about 50% of my output for the last 90 days.
Any more questions?

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< Message edited by combatpigg -- 3/29/2008 7:35:00 PM >

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Led Zeppelin is NOT "old fogie" music.

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 7:20:04 PM   
I_Fly_Coolers


 

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....When I get people in my organization that behave in this manner, they are fired immediately before they can create problems.



Wow you must be a Nazi? Or afraid of people smarter than you who may take over your position?

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 7:28:16 PM   
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I see you have applied that Impact Absorbing Rubber to the spinner of that plane.
Good idea, can really help in those lawndart scenarios to have ruberized the nose.

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 7:49:28 PM   
combatpigg



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Status: online 		KE, I'm too busy right now thinking up inflammatory and negative bottom feeder rhetoric to talk planes with you .......

I wonder if any of the doubters of my take on this situation could define liberal fascism?
As a people we are fed small increments of it everyday in the real world.
I hate to see any signs of it show up in what is supposed to be my pristine "make believe" world of toy airplanes.

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 8:20:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		pigg you were not the one im talking about either. nice planes !

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 8:41:34 PM   
combatpigg



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Status: online 		tt, I have often had the same question as you about some of the posters. A lot of these guys are retired and have a lot of time to spend on some of the deep thinking that you read about here.
If it wasn't for HOSS bringing this article to my attention, I would have never known anything about it. Thankfully we have some vigilant types like him who seek to inform the rest of us when the AMA is under performing or attempting to turn into something that it is not intended to be.
I can not find any fault with that.

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 9:07:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh ok i didnt know he was retired. He does bring up some points but then my point is if you cant say something nice dont say anything. Do you realise there are twice as many rc flyers that fly everything from warbirds to jets that dont beong to ama. They have their own fields . Clubs have so much politics and problems I choose to fly off my own land. I belonged to AMA until they got nasty with me about sending back the dvd i never asked for and they wanted the coin back. Thats why im no longer an AMA member.
greg hahn , a top gun winner simply said internet rumors and misinformation can ruin this hobby. as well as the bottomfeeder comment i think he means the idiots who crash on purpose or make the hobby look bad

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 11:01:42 PM   
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STL, only you could feel insulted by my statement. It was also you that made countless efforts trying to change my mind on the issue of where the NATS are run every year. It is an issue that I feel needs to change and one that you feel does not. Why in your mind does my thought process not count as a card holding member of the AMA? Why should I be classified as a bottom feeder because I do not agree with what you think is correct? Why is it wrong to debate the issue here in the AMA forum without now being labeled by the likes of Greg Hahn? It appears that you and Mr. Hahn are trying to put together a partnership in the perfect world where we all think alike and no product is ever made that is nothing less than high quality and fail safe. Mr. Hahn has a right to make his agruement, however I think he has gone way over the line with the name calling and done it in a venue that most AMA members will see. I said it in my original post and I will say it again, Mr. Hahn owes all of us an apology, because where I come from having a thought process that differs from his or yours is not wrong. Dave


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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/29/2008 11:20:13 PM   
I_Fly_Coolers


 

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all wound up:


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7162284/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm


See post # 28 if you want Greg's username, or to send a PM his way.

I did not; I feel this should be discussed out in the open.

He has been logged on recently and am sure he is reading everything here.

I wonder what Top Flite or Futaba will think when they hear about what their sponsored pilot wrote....

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/30/2008 12:14:31 AM   
804


 

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Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
804, how do you interpret this excerpt taken from the manuscript?
"The "gotcha" attitude of many on the Web nowadays needs to stop and stop now!"
The simple fact is that for those who take the time to research RCUs' content before making any decisions about major purchases, their chances of coming away as better informed consumers goes up 110% My thanks go to the webslingers for saving me from some bad choices about equipment.
Any major supplier to our hobby that wishes to pull up stakes and leave will only serve to create a giant vaccuum that will quickly pull in the next supplier. Go back through about 50 years of magazines and look at the lists of suppliers who have come and gone.
It's a very fickle business.

combatpigg

I interpret his "gotcha" phrase as coming from an extremely accomplished modeler who is a bit p/o'd, and probably shouldn't have been phrased that way. And, believe it or not, I agree 100% with the rest of your post! But, I truly believe Hahn does not advocate silencing us on the forums. Only to be more responsible about getting carried away with baseless claims and jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

Several have agreed with me, and several with the other side, about 50-50 I'd say- par for the course here.


But hey! I've just spent a great day in Danville, IN, at an IMAC seminar with Mike McConville, Wayne Geffon, and others learning about Arresti and Giant Scale Aerobatic setup. Got to watch them fly in 20mph winds and 50 degree temps. They are amazing pilots!
Mike's new 126 inch Carden Extra 260 with DA-200 is just incredible. Today reminded me what a great hobby this is, and how nice even some of the world class pilots can be. Both those guys are friendly and approachable to even a nobody like me.


Days like today are what the hobby are all about, IMO. We all know how most of us here stand, and this debate about Greg Hahn has lost its importance from my perspective. I suspect if we all were in the same room talking face to face, we'd find more to agree on than not.

So, I'm gonna go eat pizza and get ready to go fly foamies in the gym with my buddies.

Have a great evening, y'all



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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/30/2008 5:55:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 804





Several have agreed with me, and several with the other side, about 50-50 I'd say- par for the course here.






An absolute fabrication to suit your position!

I know how much you despise anyone that opposes your views or at least my viewpoints but you are absolutely wrong with your estimation about a 50/50 split. Overwhelmingly the majority here are appalled by Mr. Hahn's characterizations of the average modeler...yes, the average modeler… as most of us in the hobby today, comb the internet to share info.


As per your condescending pm to me, you’ve pledged that you will not answer any of my disputations of your posts but it matters little as I will continue to answer yours. Good day sir.




< Message edited by littlecrankshaf -- 3/30/2008 5:56:14 AM >

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Wow! Another epiphany…that is why the suckups suckup. Super sucking protection power. Yea baby.

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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/30/2008 6:47:24 AM   
Robotech



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quote:

ORIGINAL: 804


Several have agreed with me, and several with the other side, about 50-50 I'd say- par for the course here.



An absolute fabrication to suit your position!

I know how much you despise anyone that opposes your views or at least my viewpoints but you are absolutely wrong with your estimation about a 50/50 split. Overwhelmingly the majority here are appalled by Mr. Hahn's characterizations of the average modeler...yes, the average modeler… as most of us in the hobby today, comb the internet to share info.



quote:

From the article in discussion:

I hope not; I happen to enjoy this hobby and I know I'm not alone. Of course, it is human nature to make sure the minority ruins it for the majority!

Next time you're on the Web and getting ready to jump in on a thread, stop and think about what you are doing; make sure you consider the bigger picture. Are you helping or hurting? Are you promoting or aggravating? Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Do you really have the facts? If you can't instantly answer all of those questions, then it's best to leave your 2¢ in your pocket.



Doesn't sound like he's addressing the "average modeler" or even the average RCU poster to me. Again, if the shoe fits wear it.


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RE: One FLY can Ruin a great PIE ! - 3/30/2008 7:46:19 AM   
KidEpoxy



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Status: offline 		Well I guess we need a quick RollCall as to just whom the article is insulting.

Is Hahn calling Hoss a bottomfeeder for finding faults & posting them?
LCS?
Me?

So sure,
lets hear the fine folks say that Hahn wasnt talking about us here in the AMA forum,
I'm willing to let folks say that what we say about AMA here is A-OK, and not what Hahn was talking about.

Either Hahn called us Bottomfeeders for not being silent about problems,
or he is not calling us Bottomfeeders because what we say isnt wrong to say.

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