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Nick2618 03-31-2008 10:37 AM

Nemesis FWD only...
 
I have another problem with my nemesis that i cant seem to figure out. It is only Front wheel drive now. I have take apart the tranny and all looks good. Then i took out the rear diff and i was going to open it but the damn thing snapped my screwdrive tip off. So i said F it. But the diff rolled smooth and felt fine. When i flip the truck over and press the gas i can see the front and rear shafts turning but the power dose not seems to transfer to the wheel. So do you all think the rear diff is the problem and i prolly need all the internals or something?

nomobux 03-31-2008 11:08 AM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: nick2618

I have another problem with my nemesis that i cant seem to figure out. It is only Front wheel drive now. I have take apart the tranny and all looks good. Then i took out the rear diff and i was going to open it but the damn thing snapped my screwdrive tip off. So i said F it. But the diff rolled smooth and felt fine. When i flip the truck over and press the gas i can see the front and rear shafts turning but the power dose not seems to transfer to the wheel. So do you all think the rear diff is the problem and i prolly need all the internals or something?
check all your grub screws

The Real Dogman 03-31-2008 12:08 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
NOMOBUX is right, most likely it is the grub/set screw holding the drive to the input side of the rear diff. That is usually the problem!!

nomobux 03-31-2008 12:44 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

NOMOBUX is right, most likely it is the grub/set screw holding the drive to the input side of the rear diff. That is usually the problem!!
Thot you were working ?? Rite !!

The Real Dogman 03-31-2008 02:31 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 

I am working!! Maybe!!


ORIGINAL: nomobux



ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

NOMOBUX is right, most likely it is the grub/set screw holding the drive to the input side of the rear diff. That is usually the problem!!
Thot you were working ?? Rite !!

Nick2618 03-31-2008 03:55 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
What/where is the grub screw...[:@]

burningpoo 03-31-2008 04:17 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
The set screws by the diff's.

Nick2618 03-31-2008 08:12 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
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IS this it??? If it is i am pretty sure it was tight. If i flip it over and roll one of the rear wheels the front will start to spin...

The Real Dogman 03-31-2008 08:24 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Yes thats it, and if the factory did not get the screw lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft it will seem tight(with locktite holding it). Take it apart and see if the screw has been rubbing on the input shaft. But when you put it back together again be sure the set screw is lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft...

And to test before you take it apart hold both front tires with your feet(truck upsid down so you can see the drive shaft) Now grab both rear tires and rotate them together. You should be able to rotate the rear tires(with a little force) while the front tires are still. If you can look at the drive shaft to see if it is rotating too. If it is then the center diff is the problem(which I highly doubt) but if the drive shaft is NOT rotating then the rear diff slpping somehow, whether its the grub/set screw loose or the internals of the diff are knackered(as the English might say)

Hope this helps

nomobux 04-01-2008 07:06 AM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

Yes thats it, and if the factory did not get the screw lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft it will seem tight(with locktite holding it). Take it apart and see if the screw has been rubbing on the input shaft. But when you put it back together again be sure the set screw is lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft...

And to test before you take it apart hold both front tires with your feet(truck upsid down so you can see the drive shaft) Now grab both rear tires and rotate them together. You should be able to rotate the rear tires(with a little force) while the front tires are still. If you can look at the drive shaft to see if it is rotating too. If it is then the center diff is the problem(which I highly doubt) but if the drive shaft is NOT rotating then the rear diff slpping somehow, whether its the grub/set screw loose or the internals of the diff are knackered(as the English might say)

Hope this helps
X2 on what puppy says. I just broke in a guys X-Factor 2. Checked everything for tight. 1st tank, it spit a driveline. Factory tightened the grub on the round. Set was still tight as hell where they locked it. Chances are, you will luck out.

derrick05 04-02-2008 07:08 AM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
I probably shouldnt tell anyone this but I had the same thing happen to me when my NEMESIS was new.I disassembled my entire truck and put it back together,never found a thing wrong.Problem was,all the torque from this beast had made light work of my tire glue[X(]Yea,I know,what an idiot.At least it gave me a chance to become familiar with my truck:DDont know why,but the fronts stay glued pretty good,but I have to check the rear quite often.The tires would feel snug to the touch,but under hard torque they would slip.

burningpoo 04-02-2008 01:08 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 

ORIGINAL: derrick05

I probably shouldnt tell anyone this but I had the same thing happen to me when my NEMESIS was new.I disassembled my entire truck and put it back together,never found a thing wrong.Problem was,all the torque from this beast had made light work of my tire glue[X(]Yea,I know,what an idiot.At least it gave me a chance to become familiar with my truck:DDont know why,but the fronts stay glued pretty good,but I have to check the rear quite often.The tires would feel snug to the touch,but under hard torque they would slip.
Did you have your center locker in then?

Nick2618 04-02-2008 08:11 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Thanks for all teh suggestions. I have yet to look at my truck to check to see if anyhting you all suggested would work. To mad at it really to care wheather it works now or later...

derrick05 04-03-2008 06:20 AM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: burningpoo


ORIGINAL: derrick05

I probably shouldnt tell anyone this but I had the same thing happen to me when my NEMESIS was new.I disassembled my entire truck and put it back together,never found a thing wrong.Problem was,all the torque from this beast had made light work of my tire glue[X(]Yea,I know,what an idiot.At least it gave me a chance to become familiar with my truck:DDont know why,but the fronts stay glued pretty good,but I have to check the rear quite often.The tires would feel snug to the touch,but under hard torque they would slip.
Did you have your center locker in then?
No,I went in there to lock it only to discover that the little block needed to lock the diff didnt come with the nemesis.CEN informed that the locking kit comes with the GST,but not the nemesis and I just never got around to messing with it again and am not sure that I will.My truck gladly does everything I ask of it like it is.I havent had a situation yet that convinces me that it is necessary to lock that diff:Dand I also like the less stress factor of the unlocked diff,but everyone sets up the way that fits them best.

burningpoo 04-04-2008 02:36 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Only reason I'm keeping my locker out is hill climbing. I want to be able floor it and not flip over backward. Maybe I should start with the 300k for the center, only time and crashing will tell:D

Nick2618 04-14-2008 02:00 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

Yes thats it, and if the factory did not get the screw lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft it will seem tight(with locktite holding it). Take it apart and see if the screw has been rubbing on the input shaft. But when you put it back together again be sure the set screw is lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft...

And to test before you take it apart hold both front tires with your feet(truck upsid down so you can see the drive shaft) Now grab both rear tires and rotate them together. You should be able to rotate the rear tires(with a little force) while the front tires are still. If you can look at the drive shaft to see if it is rotating too. If it is then the center diff is the problem(which I highly doubt) but if the drive shaft is NOT rotating then the rear diff slpping somehow, whether its the grub/set screw loose or the internals of the diff are knackered(as the English might say)

Hope this helps
OK so i finially did the test and held the front 2 wheels and roated teh rears together. Drive shaft turned so that means the center diff is bad?

burningpoo 04-15-2008 10:02 AM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
When I hold the front wheels and move the back the clutch bell spins, I'm moving both rear tires in the same direction. If your drive shaft is moveing and your clutch bell isn''t your grub screw is out of place, missing or something inside the diff broke.

The Real Dogman 04-15-2008 12:05 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 

Nick, Did you happen to take notice to see fi the front drive shaft was rotating too?? If it is you will need to look at the front input drive cup to see if that grub screw is tightened down on the input shaft flat spot... or loose all together. But I would look at the front diff now.


ORIGINAL: Nick2618



ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

Yes thats it, and if the factory did not get the screw lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft it will seem tight(with locktite holding it). Take it apart and see if the screw has been rubbing on the input shaft. But when you put it back together again be sure the set screw is lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft...

And to test before you take it apart hold both front tires with your feet(truck upsid down so you can see the drive shaft) Now grab both rear tires and rotate them together. You should be able to rotate the rear tires(with a little force) while the front tires are still. If you can look at the drive shaft to see if it is rotating too. If it is then the center diff is the problem(which I highly doubt) but if the drive shaft is NOT rotating then the rear diff slpping somehow, whether its the grub/set screw loose or the internals of the diff are knackered(as the English might say)

Hope this helps
OK so i finially did the test and held the front 2 wheels and roated teh rears together. Drive shaft turned so that means the center diff is bad?

Nick2618 04-15-2008 09:58 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 


ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman


Nick, Did you happen to take notice to see fi the front drive shaft was rotating too?? If it is you will need to look at the front input drive cup to see if that grub screw is tightened down on the input shaft flat spot... or loose all together. But I would look at the front diff now.


ORIGINAL: Nick2618



ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

Yes thats it, and if the factory did not get the screw lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft it will seem tight(with locktite holding it). Take it apart and see if the screw has been rubbing on the input shaft. But when you put it back together again be sure the set screw is lined up with the flat spot on the input shaft...

And to test before you take it apart hold both front tires with your feet(truck upsid down so you can see the drive shaft) Now grab both rear tires and rotate them together. You should be able to rotate the rear tires(with a little force) while the front tires are still. If you can look at the drive shaft to see if it is rotating too. If it is then the center diff is the problem(which I highly doubt) but if the drive shaft is NOT rotating then the rear diff slpping somehow, whether its the grub/set screw loose or the internals of the diff are knackered(as the English might say)

Hope this helps
OK so i finially did the test and held the front 2 wheels and roated teh rears together. Drive shaft turned so that means the center diff is bad?

the front drive shaft did not rotate when i held the front and roated the rear tires.

The Real Dogman 04-15-2008 10:41 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
ok then the next Q. Is your center diff locked?? And if not, then your clutchbell should rotate! Now if your clutchbell spins then hold the clutchbell and try to spin the rears again with front wheels being locked up, then if the rear drive shaft still spins then you prolly need to take the tranny apart.

Let us know

Nick2618 04-16-2008 01:25 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 

ORIGINAL: The Real Dogman

ok then the next Q. Is your center diff locked?? And if not, then your clutchbell should rotate! Now if your clutchbell spins then hold the clutchbell and try to spin the rears again with front wheels being locked up, then if the rear drive shaft still spins then you prolly need to take the tranny apart.

Let us know
The clutch bell dose spin like you said and the center diff should not be locked. When i hold the front tires, and the clutchbell and try to spin the rears they will not. So the rear tires will not spin with clutchbell and front wheels held. So are we back to the center diff. when i installed reverse i might not have put it together right. [&:]

Thanks for the help TRD. :D

The Real Dogman 04-16-2008 07:43 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Hey Nick, No Problem thats what we are here for!! Now go tear your tranny apart, the tests I just described and the results tell me thatthere is really nothing wrong if your center diff is NOT locked. So it has to be the remainer of the tranny!!

Have fun and hope this helps

CEN Racing 04-17-2008 04:59 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Wow- i got lost in the rolling back and forth part... let us know if you need anything
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Nick2618 05-02-2008 02:38 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 
Hey i took the center diff apart and made sure everything was tight and threadlocked. So maybe tomarrow after the threadlocker dries i MIGHT drive a tank in the nemesis without something breaking or going wrong...

The Real Dogman 05-02-2008 07:05 PM

RE: Nemesis FWD only...
 

Who said anything about rolling back and forth??:eek:


ORIGINAL: CEN Racing

Wow- i got lost in the rolling back and forth part... let us know if you need anything
[email protected]




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