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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:16 AM   
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is an interesting statement since My CX flies pretty fast. I will get a vid when I get a change.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		the flybar is the key link to the stability of these coax machines. the shorter the flybar the less inherently stable they are and the more they will respond to input from the pilot.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure what you are comparing the speed too. It's really meant to be flown indoors and compared to even something like a hbfp, it's pretty pokey. That doesn't mean it's not fun.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi i don't think a shorter flybar will make it move farward faster... don't you need longer servo horns so it moves everything a little more to make it fly in all directions faster?



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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:53 AM   
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That is an interesting statement since My CX flies pretty fast. I will get a vid when I get a change.

Could it have been the 25 degree weather that caused it to feel slower?
maybe there was some funky swirly wind but i did not see any movement at all from the trees or the long grass i have by my pond?

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot to mention that it is alot easier to mod the CX because the Servos face parallel with the heli and have a longer stock servo horn than the Lama does so you can move the linkage to the outer most hole for much faster movement.
The lama is the opposite. You have to buy a longer servo horn since the stock one was cut off so it doesn't hit the body, when you install the longer servo horn on the Lama you have to trim the body so it doesn't hit. Then it will fly faster.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 6:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		cool i am trying to find the parts i seen one guy on e-bay selling them but he wants $6.00 to ship them!!!
do only e-flight cx and cx2 servo horns fit?
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 6:34 AM   
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 7:11 AM   
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No, you'll need them for an esky servo although others may fit. Eflight wont.

On another V4 board they are all saying E-flight ones will work
these ones
http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200469359

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 1:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have both. I assure you, they will not. The splines are different. Mind you these are not the digital servos. The horn you posted is for eflite. I think it's even an eflite part number.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/9/2008 5:30 PM   
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 2:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK. The TBE is mostly GONE! I pulled off all the aluminum parts and put the stock plastic stuff back on. Then I adjusted, adjusted, adjusted and adjusted some more. Not quite perfect but at least I can control it. Still need some right rudder to keep from spining very slowly but that will come.
IMHO loose the aluminum! Got 2 sets for sale if you still want them!
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 3:05 AM   
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the V4 has digital servos so will they fit?


That is a good question and one I do not have an answer too. I read that the horns from the non digital eflight were different from the digital. Just my 2 cents, but moving the rod out wont make that much of a difference at least from my testing. I have flown the thing a bunch out side and after having it snatched from me due to wind, I finally got a honey bee fixed pitch. I highly recomend it if your intent is to do more outside flying.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 3:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is the Honey Bee fixed pitch any more stable than the Falcon 40? Somehow I doubt it. I couldn't fly the Falcon 40 to save my life. I could hover it for about 30 to 45 seconds and that was it. I prefer to fly my CX outside.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 3:53 AM   
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Is the Honey Bee fixed pitch any more stable than the Falcon 40? Somehow I doubt it. I couldn't fly the Falcon 40 to save my life. I could hover it for about 30 to 45 seconds and that was it. I prefer to fly my CX outside.



Remember, you don't really fly a coax, they kind of fly themselves. You just sort of point them. I guess it would be the same as the falcon 40 but I found the fp with a pair skids to be more robust, and possibly cheaper to fix. The giggle factor is much higher when you finally do get the hang of it.

I tried going from the lama to a blade cp and then a belt cp and then a king. It wasn't until the fp that I finally figured it out. I'm not trying to sell anyone on anything but you I personally never enjoyed flying the lama outside. It's kind of breaks into bits when you crash it.


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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 4:21 AM   
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 4:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		if i practice with a simulator a lot before hand, is the honeybee king FP safe indoors? I have read about how coaxials get boring because they are so simple to fly? I can fly it outside of course, but when you have temps in the single digits, or below zero it is preferable to stay inside. maybe a smaller FP would be a good idea.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 5:03 AM   
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if i practice with a simulator a lot before hand, is the honeybee king FP safe indoors? I have read about how coaxials get boring because they are so simple to fly? I can fly it outside of course, but when you have temps in the single digits, or below zero it is preferable to stay inside. maybe a smaller FP would be a good idea.

Did you ever fly a heli before?
If not get a MCX by e-flight it will teach you alot and it's the most easy heli on the planet to fly.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 5:11 AM   
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Remember, you don't really fly a coax, they kind of fly themselves.

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That is what I like about it, because I can't fly a real style heli.

Shenlonco,
That is what they all say. (Flies nice) yeh, until I fly it

I'll stick with the coaxials for quick simple fun, because I spend alot more time flying planes and enjoy them much more.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 5:19 AM   
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Remember, you don't really fly a coax, they kind of fly themselves.



That is what I like about it, because I can't fly a real style heli.

Shenlonco,
That is what they all say. (Flies nice) yeh, until I fly it

I'll stick with the coaxials for quick simple fun, because I spend alot more time flying planes and enjoy them much more.



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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 5:41 AM   
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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 6:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just to share with you guys,
My first heli, about 4 or 5 years ago was the Roto fly. What a nightmare that thing was. But at the time, I thought it was the coolest thing. Then I got the House Fly, a much better heli, that I could actually fly. Or should I say, it flew itself , but I did feel like I was doing something

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 6:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok, i seem to have a problem with my swashplate on my dauphin. This picture shows what happened when I was just checking some parts for excess play.
the parts snap back together, but are they supposed to be "two" pieces? If this isn't normal, will just upgrade to the xtreme swash. Any problems with the xtreme swash I need to know about? Direct fit? i don't really have the budget for the rest of the xtreme rotor head parts. (I already have the xtreme taller inner shaft and their white blades).


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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 12/10/2008 6:55 AM   
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Sorry, not sure about your question. Hopefully someone else will know.

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