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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 2:39:00 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, the power supply should have come with the kit.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 9:12:42 PM

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I was just going by what Ive seen in pics on different web-sites. Is there any need to up-grade the charger/balancer? Or do I need to worry about these Lipos blowing up? Only reason I ask is because I'm new to the Lipo game and I've read a lot about batteries catching fire. Is this something I need to be worried about?

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 9:45:13 PM

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nope just use the supplied charger/balancer and youll be Ok
only thing with LIPO's is that you can not let them completely discharge
or they will be ruined, should only run them till you start loosing power.
then either charge them again or change batteries.
there not like your regular batts. and should only be stored with some juice in them.

I am also curious to know if and why they would catch on fire.

Ive only had one NIMH receiver batt on one of my rc cars that did catch on fire.
but only cause I left it charging for too long while I ran my other cars.
maybe its the same with LIPO's

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 10:22:48 PM

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Any battery can catch on fire under the right circumstances, usually over charging. I've even seen car batteries explode. Years ago, when the first rechargeable alkalines came out, they had the same problem and reputation. It was partly over charging, and partly because people were recharging non-rechargeable batteries in the chargers.
There are a couple things that make LiPo's more of a hazard. First, they use a 2 stage CC/CV charging technique (Constant Current/Constant Voltage) that isn't used with NiMH or NiCad chargers. When they first came out (and even now), people used their NiMH chargers on them. This charged them too fast and too much. The LiPo cells would swell, whistle, and then burn (or explode). The 2nd problem is that the polymers are more volatile, and they burn much hotter. Hot enough to ignite many things around them. If you short (cross the leads on) any battery, it can kill the battery, but doing it to a LiPo can cause it to burn. Even puncturing the cells can cause this. It may be partly due to the fast discharge rates and the amount of energy they can store, as well as the polymers, but I'm not 100% certain.
So, they can be dangerous, but, keep in mind that most of the videos you see of exploding LiPo batteries are staged. They intentionally overcharge the battery with the wrong type of charger to make sure it'll burn for the camera. If you treat them with respect, you shouldn't have any problems. Most of us have heard stories of exploding LiPo's, but never actually seen it ourselves.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 10:28:10 PM

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Thanks, that does help. God I cant wait to get my heli. Here's the crappy part about it. It'll be here Friday, but i'm leaving on friday to go away for the weekend. How bad does that suck? I'm not leaving till 12 so I hope it gets here in time. The wife might not like it but I think I might bring it. Hahaha.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 11:02:15 PM

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Thanks, that does help. God I cant wait to get my heli. Here's the crappy part about it. It'll be here Friday, but i'm leaving on friday to go away for the weekend. How bad does that suck? I'm not leaving till 12 so I hope it gets here in time. The wife might not like it but I think I might bring it. Hahaha.

whats up with wives and our toys

try getting a tracking number and if its UPS of Fedex you can have them hold it
at their location and just pick it up and not have to wait for it at your door.
just a thought

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/10/2008 11:37:54 PM

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To be able to pick it up would mean driving out of my way to get it, not close enough. But either case, I'm with you on the wife kick. They dont understand the "RC" thing. They can spend money on art and crafts and whatever else makes them happy but we can have ours. hahaha Makes sense of that..............

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/11/2008 12:21:13 AM

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Every time I get a new helicopter (and I have a lot of them), my wife yells, "Another helicopter!!!"
But, I get to say, "But Dear, I need it for work." Now, how cool is that

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/11/2008 12:52:17 AM

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What kind of work are you into? I need a job like that. DAMN Must be nice. hahahaha How many heli's do you have?

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/11/2008 1:46:30 AM

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Joey, I'm the president of SuperSkids, LLC. Yes, I enjoy my job most of the time, but it also consumes all my time (18 to 20 hours a day). I seldom get to fly for pleasure anymore. I fly every day, but most of the time it's for testing something, and that can be boring.
I really can't even count all the helis I have. Some are several of the same model, others I've only flown once or twice.
I know it sounds like all fun and games, and there is a lot of fun in it, but there's also tons of paperwork, lawyers, trademark battles and production deadlines.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/11/2008 2:05:12 AM

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Well good luck with everything and I hope you find the time to enjoy flying again. Its a great get-a-way from a long crazy day. And thanks for the info. on answering my questions.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/11/2008 4:33:47 AM

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Woo Hoo!!

My 5#10 arrived today. As the battery charged, I went over every bit of it, looking for loose screws & stuff to adjust. I was really impressed - the screw securing the decorative tail rotor was the only thing that needed a little tightening.

I didn't get much chance to really drive it hard, but hovered it all around my bedroom. Right outta the box it was set up properly.

I think it was Gary (GTX SlotCar) who stated that the 5#10 is gonna give the Lama a run for the money. I hate to admit it, especially after building my yellow Super Lama, but he may be absolutely correct.

It arrived in a smaller box than expected, and overall it looks quite a bit tinier than the Lama, but the stable flight I've seen with the little flying I did this afternoon is really impressive. For those of you who have one, Great Choice! For those of you reading this who haven't yet decided if they want one ... trust me, You Want One

Anyone know of a replacement motor set (planning ahead) that allows use of the stock 3.7v battery & 4-In-One?? These do get pretty hot & I wondered if there is a ball-bearing type motor out there yet.

It's so diminutive that I'm really wondering how well it really flies with Super Skids, uising the stock motors & battery set up???

pics later

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/12/2008 2:05:00 AM

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I think 1 coax heli is enough for me. If I get another it will be a single rotor fixed. Id rather use the extra cash to advance in the helis.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/12/2008 2:32:45 AM

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Not much difference in nose-to nose profile, but the OAL is striking. The SuperLama v4 looks almost brutish by comparison. The 5#10 is a little quicker responding, but the Lama still has a longer flight time.

On the Lama 4-in-One, there is adjustment for gyro gain and also for Proportional (zeroing out rudder rotational drift). On the 5#10 there is also adjustment for gyro gain, but the other pot adjustment is for Extent = amount of servo travel. How is the 5#10 adjusted for Proportional, besides the TX trim tab on the left lateral motion stick?

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/12/2008 5:38:34 AM

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On the other hand it looks like I might of like the 5#10 better since its a little smaller and looks better built. But I have my lama

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 6/12/2008 4:18:19 PM

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Does that new heli come stock with those aluminum parts?

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