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ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 3/31/2008 8:22:49 PM

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I think it's time for the Lama 4 to have its own thread since it's quite different from the Lama 2/3.
I'll start it off with a question. My Lama 4 seems to have an amazing 4in1. I can spin the heli fast left or right and it stops on a dime. When I punch the throttle, the heli doesn't spin to the left even a little, and when I shut the throttle down, it doesn't spin to right even a little. What I'm saying is, it really stays where it's pointed. None of my other coaxial or FP helis (or CP helis with a tail motor) lock like this thing does. So, my question is, did I get lucky, or are they all this good?

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 3/31/2008 8:59:45 PM

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I hope they're all this good, mine should be here any day now

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 3/31/2008 9:08:15 PM

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mine does the same, will sit and hover if I want it to.

pic of mine.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/1/2008 4:43:33 AM

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Here's a quick video of some power ups and spins. I can't believe how tight the tail is on this thing. I'm might put one of these 4in1's on all my coaxial helis.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oMllK3t9Krc

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/7/2008 10:31:19 AM

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I bought mine a week ago. Already broke all the spare blades so bought the extreme blades.

Now I am trying to trim it, because it slowly turns CCW while hovering. I am trying to turn the gain screw clockwise in very small steps, but so far no result.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/7/2008 5:02:10 PM

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[EDIT]
See the post below.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/8/2008 1:05:39 AM

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I had his info from another thread:

4-in-1 Left pot adjustment (Gain):
This pot (I think) adjusts the yaw (horizontal rotation). If you are as close as the manual trim will take you to hovering without rotation, this will help. It the nose of the helicopter rotates to the right, turn the pot to the left. If the nose of the helicopter rotates to the left, turn the pot to the right. It only requires very small adjustments. If you become confused on which way to turn it, turn it a large amount either way to see the effect. Note: Set transmitter trims to the center, then disconnect battery before adjusting and re-connect it after adjusting. This will reset the 4-in-1 to the new adjustment

4-in-1 Right pot adjustment (Proportional):
The pot adjustment screw on the right side of the 4-in-1 seems to adjust the amount of control rendered when moving from center stick position to either side. Example: If the helicopter hovers good at center trim on all transmitter trim wheels AND the servo arms are straight level, then… turn the right pot screw on the 4-in-1 to the right or left to equalize the speed of rotation using full yaw, left and right. Note: Set transmitter trims to the center, then disconnect battery before adjusting and re-connect it after adjusting. This will reset the 4-in-1 to the new adjustment.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/8/2008 2:07:44 AM

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I just got my Lama V4 about 3 hours ago (I'm lucky, I live about 15 miles from Hobby-Lobby Int. so I just went up there and picked one up) and it also has amazing tail control. I couldn't believe how quick it starts and stops rotation. Got everything dialed in as far as yaw and left and right pitch but it tends to drift backwards even with the trim set forward to the stops. I'm pretty sure I can get it dialed in by adjusting the length of the control arm between the servo and the swash-plate though. For you guys that are having trouble with tail drift even when you've set the trim tabs all the way in one direction all I can say is read your instruction manuals a few times. Once you figure out how to decipher the Chine-english grammer it does tell you how to adjust the ESC pots to dial in your copter.

I laughed for 5 minutes when I read the front of the manual and it said,

"WARNING: R/C model is not a toy, please fly it after reading the instruction detailedly."

ROFLOL!

So now go read your instruction detailedly and get your helicopters dialed in.

Good Luck and welcome to the wonderful world of RC.

Danny

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/8/2008 2:31:06 PM

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OK. I just went through this again.
The left trimmer pot is for the gyro gain. The right pot is the motor mixer. It seems to operate in a counter intuitive nature in that a CW adjustment will spin your heli CCW. So, the easy way to remember it is that if your heli IS spinning CCW, turn the trimmer CCW to correct it.

Turn the left trimmer (pot) all the way down (CCW). This basically shuts off the gyro.
Center your rudder trim.
Fly the Lama for a couple minutes to let the motors (and 4in1) warm up.
If the heli is spinning CCW, turn the right trimmer (Proportional) CCW.
If the heli is spinning CW, turn the Proportional trimmer CW.
Keep doing this until the Lama stops spinning on its own, or get it as close as possible.
Once this adjustment is as good as you can get it, increase (CW) the gyro gain on the Gain trimmer. Small steps are best. This locks the gyro. but too much lock will cause the tail to shimmy back and forth as it "hunts" for center. It will also probably slow down the speed of the tail so you won't be able to spin it as fast.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/8/2008 3:33:58 PM

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And don't forget what else it says on the box: Hold Your Heart!

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/8/2008 9:31:02 PM

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Just waiting for one more part to get here and I'll be able to fly it with the Comanche fuselage (I think)

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/9/2008 1:24:20 AM

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Thanks GTX, that really was much easier to understand then the instruction manual.

Danny

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/9/2008 3:29:55 PM

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come on guys did you guys missed the Instructions
calling for the " SOFT DOG"
I swear me and my kid laughed for a while till we figured it out.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/9/2008 3:59:18 PM

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Instructions? What a great idea!

OK, I have a partner in Canada who is Chinese, and one in China (also Chinese) where superskids are assembled. In one small document, I called for the words "for a better fit". The printing came out "for a batter fit". I pointed out the mistake and explained the difference to my partners. Their official response was "Now we don't have to print 'Made in China' on the label."

At least some of them have a sense of humor about this.

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/9/2008 4:10:01 PM

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where do you guys buy your upgrade kits? I have had this lama v4 since november and the upgrade kits are always sold out. Xtreme's website is marginal at best and everywhere else doesn't have the parts that I need.
Jeff

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RE: ESKY LAMA 4 THREAD - 4/9/2008 11:58:15 PM

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http://www.walkera-parts.com/shop/index.php?cPath=412 Check out this link. I got the full aluminum upgrade for $20. It will take about 10 days but it sounds like you have already waited longer than that. Since it is from China shipping is high (about $30) so best to go on and order anything you think you will need int the future to make it worth the shipping. Cheap parts though.

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