Swift427
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Joined: 3/15/2007 From: Minneapolis,
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ORIGINAL: Rob68 Can anyone who owns a mini-slinger or a flying wing tell me how it's flight characteristics are? Unless you have tools/workbench and experience building/modifiying you should buy an RTF plane. Whether a Wild Wing - http://hobbypeople.net/gallery/160525.asp or a Swift II - http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5482 or a Mini Slinger the following pretty much applies to them all --- "Being almost indestructible, with quick assembly makes SWIFT II a suitable choice for beginners. However, don't be fooled by this, because SWIFT II is a high performance and agile model capable of advanced aerobatics." One way to determine how interested you are in starting and FINISHING a build project is to read page 2 of the this Wattflyer thread on the Mini Slinger - http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6f1732c543010cfbb935642f86afbfab&t=22221&page=2 Because the 180 motor that comes with the wing is more for indoor flight or outdoors with NO wind 90% of Mini Slinger owners immediately upgrade the power plant. This is evident from the following excerpts taken from page one. It is not uncommon for parkflyers to get carried away with the need for speed/power. All Wings have a good slope glide ratio for beginner pilots, but as you can read from the following EVEYONE pulls out the 180 brushed motor and goes brushless. "I really like these planes because they are very forgiving when you wreck, they handle windy conditions when most everyone else is grounded, are very fast with the proper set up and I think they are great trainers." "My slinger is dead. I let my brother try to fly it. it was sort of windy and my other slinger fell off the car. I went to pick it up and during that brief time I heard ' Oh no! I can't stop! I can't pull out! NO! NOoo!' I saw the mini bounce about 2 ft up. electronics flew everywhere. Tore the motor/battery tray in half with the motor destroying the mount, ESC came off with the velcro and styrofoam still attached, elevon control horn ripped out, winglets broke off along with splintered wood, and the front off the nose is broke, busted and in pieces with some foam missings." "Both planes are way overpowered, mini even more so. I put the mini into a serious dive and it turned into a duck. I only needed a shotgun. Luckily, it didn't fall apart. I had to reinforce with some carbon rods and now it flies like on rails. Remember Estees rockets and how they blast off? the mini is a rocket with wings." "I've turned several Mini Slingers into wavy piles of foam using a Speed 280 brushed motor w/stock prop and a 1000mah 3s LiPo." "My big slinger is dead. I was just plain stupid with it. after I put in the carbon reinforcements, I thought I could do anything... EPP foam might have helped, but this styrofoam and wood didn't hold up to my complete stupidity. hit so hard the rods are bent. might tape her back together, but don't think it will be able to handle stress." "I pulled my Mini off the wall and went to fly and burned another 280 last night, installed a BB 280 brushed motor thinking it would be better, it smoked during break-in, so I found a bushing brushed cheapo and broke it in and am ready to try again today. I really need to get a brushless set up for it..." "I flew it with the new 280 motor and it's a screamer again, really a fun little wing. The motor came out of a Great Planes F4U Corsair, I have 2 and built both brushless from the get-go. Stock prop. The motor bolts right in and if you use a 1000mah 3S lipo, it balances perfect." "BTW this model uses the RC unit (with a elevon mixer added) and battery out of a Esky Lama 4 and works quite good for me on the 2S 7.4v stock LiPo. At 220grams it can fly extremely slow but also get up to quite a speed and I've acheived flight times of 55 mins. with a 1000mAh LiPo." quote:
ORIGINAL: Time Pilot You can learn to fly on any plane you want. Some planes are easier to fly, though, and make learning easier. Yep, I'm coming to the same conclusion that a quick learn beginner with several hours a a good Flight Simulator could buy an E-flite plane and use it as a beginner trainer with the help of an instructor(mandatory). So, if you've got the money to outfit an Edge 540, Mini Showtime, Jenny JN-4, Piper Pawnee, Beaver, etc you could make the jump. However, in most cases parkflyers teach themselves which means lots of crashes and buying replacement parts and making modifications while traveling down the learning curve. If you don't have access to a club field and an instructor you should buy a beginner RTF trainer. It doesn't have to be 3-channel rudder/elevator/throttle. A 3-channel aileron trainer with fixed rudder is just as valid for a beginner plane.
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