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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 4:35:32 AM

RCKen

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It should have generated you a password immediately and emailed it out to you. PM me you're email address and I'll get it right to you.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 5:23:04 AM

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It's not big worries, We all know who reliable paypal processing can be

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 5:33:59 AM

RCKen

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n19htmare ,
I PM'ed as well as emailed your your access info. Sorry for the mix up.

Ken

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 6:38:55 AM

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Ok. I have watched some of the videos....and.......

THEY'RE GREAT!

If you're a Beginner, It doesn't matter if you bought a Kit or ARF or RTF. These videos are MUST. They are very hands on and explain everything.

For the past week, I downloaded the building guide for my planes that is en-route to familiarize my self and the more I was reading the darn book, the more confusing it got. BTW, this is for the AVISTAR, go download their guide and see for your self. In the 2nd page, they mention some changes that need to be made to the so and so page number but the page numbers are not even the correct ones lol. These happen to be how to install nose gear/ailerons/rudder/clevis/elevator. I downloaded the videos that had to with all that, It explained all I need to know. In just 30 minutes, I know how to properly install the Nose gear, Ailerons, Rudder, Elevator, how to make pushrod and tons of other things. I like that Ken and Minnflyer separated the videos so one can get just what they need. I didn't buy a kit so I didn't get those videos but I think I will now.

The videos made perfect sense and now that I go back re-read the manual, it all made sense.

All you newbies, ORDER THE VIDEOS. Probably the best $25 you'll spend to save your $400 or whatever plane.

Again, Great Job fellas.

Footnote: I am in no way affiliated with the makers of Getting Airborne. I'm just stoked that what I could not figure out in reading the Manual 5 times, I figured out in just a matter of minutes. Again, everything I said is my personal opinion/view.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 3:09:10 PM

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I'll put in a plug for the videos as well. I've been flying for a few years, but never built a kit. I started watching the kit building videos last night, and I think I have enough confidence to try building one myself, now!

After watching the videos, I do have a couple questions for Ken and Mike:
1) Did you guys use thin or medium CA when you glued the wing ribs to the spars? Looks like the spar fit down into the notch in the ribs, and then you squirted some CA on both sides of the rib notch where the spar meets it. Does medium CA soak in enough to glue it well, or did you use thin CA?
2) The flat bottomed trainer wing seemed to lay nice and flat on your building board for construction. Do symmetrical wings pose other problems when building on a flat surface?
3) The "Covering the Stab" video showed how to cover the top of the stabilizer, but when you cover the other side, how much overlap do you have around the edges?

Thanks!

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 3:18:55 PM

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Ya know...

If those videos have this kind of impact on bringing more builders into the hobby, I may just order a set myself just as a thank you to Minn and Ken. *heh*

Kudos AGAIN, guys.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 3:23:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: -pkh-

1) Did you guys use thin or medium CA when you glued the wing ribs to the spars? Looks like the spar fit down into the notch in the ribs, and then you squirted some CA on both sides of the rib notch where the spar meets it. Does medium CA soak in enough to glue it well, or did you use thin CA?

You can use either thin CA, medium CA, or wood glue. You have to adjust how you work accordingly for each type. For medium CA or wood glue you would put glue on the piece and then place it on spar and hold it in place (with wood glue you'll need to brace it while the glue dries) until the glue dries. For thin CA you place the rib in place on the spar, and when you are happy with the fit you can glue it in place with thin CA. If you are going to use thin CA I recommend that you frame up the all of the ribs and the top spar before you hit it with CA. Make sure everything is in place and it all fits nicely. When you're happy with the fit then glue the ribs in place with thin CA. For wood glue (which is what I prefer, BTW) I frame up all of the ribs and then lift each rib to put glue on it.

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2) The flat bottomed trainer wing seemed to lay nice and flat on your building board for construction. Do symmetrical wings pose other problems when building on a flat surface?

For wings that DON'T have a flat bottom wing the manufacturer will usually take care of this for you. Each rib will have a "tab" on it that will hold up the trailing edge of the ribs in the proper position while you assemble the wing. Then you will turn it over and break off the tabs. Another trick that they will have you to is place a piece of wood that is the correct height under the trailing edge of the wing to hold it up while you build. The Ultra Sport kits do this method.

If you read my Sig LT-40 build thread you will see a little more about framing up a wing.
Pay It Forward build thread!! LT-40 build.

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3) The "Covering the Stab" video showed how to cover the top of the stabilizer, but when you cover the other side, how much overlap do you have around the edges?

Usually about 1/4" or so.

Hope this helps

Ken

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/3/2008 8:46:56 PM

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Well, I bought and downloaded all the videos, and they are great!!

That's a lotta stuff to watch!!! My youngest daughter just got home from school, and she is watching them on the widescreen in the family room. I cut them onto a DVD with menus so we can watch them together while eating popcorn.

Gotta get back, she's calling me with questions!!!

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 12:14:39 AM

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Wonderful Job ! Being a beginner, this site was very helpful and put together very nicely. Thanks.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 1:12:29 AM

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WOW!!!!!!!

Great site guys. This is by far one of the best sites out there for RCing. I don't think you guys could have done a better job if you tried. As always thanks again Ken and Minn.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 4:05:28 AM

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Ken and Mike, that is a great site.

There are three things that I would like to see and perhaps those are on your "to do" list but I would like to see printer friendly options or pages in PDF for easy printing. I print web pages so that I can keep them. This site is a very good one and so provides excellent reference. For that reason. I keep it, and other sites I have found that look appealing, with my reference and how to books.

The second item that I think should be added is a page that lists the suggested minimum tools to have when building a kit or repairing a plane. This question seems to be one that almost every beginner asks. I know that the question has been answered many many times on RCU but every beginner has that question (whether we ask it or not).

The third item I would like to see is a page that suggests what to have in your flight box (and what kind of flight box to get--such as "don't build a box you can not carry"

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Thank you for an excellent web site.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 7:37:11 AM

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PDFCreator is a free program you can use to print documents to pdf format.

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 11:24:57 AM

RCKen

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Mooney Driver,
I started to convert the major content of the site to PDF before I left for Toledo. Mike and I are in Toledo covering the Weak Signals Show for RCU. When I get back home I'll try to work on getting that project finished up. We'll definitely work on getting the items you suggested added to the site as well.

Ken

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RE: RC Ken and MinnFlyer have joined forces - 4/4/2008 12:29:12 PM