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Tech Director......or NOT?
A seperate TD position is essential
  45% (21)
The AMA President should handle it
  23% (11)
Out source the job to India
  30% (14)


Total Votes : 46
(last vote on : 4/10/2008 5:39:10 PM)
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Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 4:50:59 AM   
combatpigg



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Status: online 		Recent events have me questioning the need for a full time tech director. Seems like the AMA President should be able to cover the day to day "technical needs". If you ask me, it seems like a dead wood position...excess baggage.
What say you?

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 5:41:45 AM   
KidEpoxy



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Status: online 		If the ARFs are made in China, why outsorce to India?
Go to the source!

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 5:42:31 AM   
ira d


 

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Status: offline 		I voted for the essential choice because that postion requires a person that is tech savy
and the president may not be the one with the savy for the job or have the time.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 6:14:33 AM   
combatpigg



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Status: online 		What do you suppose the TD does, "day in and day out" that is of such a critical and technical nature?
Any examples of something tangible?
Any examples of a matter that is too complex for the president to comprehend?

It is kind of funny what people of today perceive to be essential. In the 1970s and earlier most high schools had a head football coach and maybe a paid assistant. Nowadays all the schools have offensive and defensive coordinators, electronic communication to spotters on the grandstand roof, etc. All on the taxpayers' nickle....but oh so essential.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 12:15:10 PM   
littlecrankshaf



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quote:

ORIGINAL: combatpigg

What do you suppose the TD does, "day in and day out" that is of such a critical and technical nature?


I guess mowing doesn't count.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 1:43:30 PM   
STLPilot


 

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quote:

All on the taxpayers' nickle....but oh so essential.
There is an opt out solution to that problem, just like there is a solution to opt out of the AMA. I'm certainly not paying for your electronic whatever he does at your school.

As far as any dead wood position for the AMA, why don't some of you guys that aer not happy happy with how the company is run step up to the plate and show us how to do it better?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, it's just the AMA has delivered EVERYTHING they promised me since the first day I ever signed up. I've gotten every magazine. I've gotten some free DVD's, I've gotten to utilize THEIR local clubs and local clubs sites. And best of all I've never once heard anyone or know anyone that has not gotten their insurance denied for just cause. So what if the AMA is not growing as fast as some of your want it too, they at least deliver what they promise.

I mean what else could you ask for??

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 2:06:38 PM   
Stickbuilder



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quote:

ORIGINAL: combatpigg

What do you suppose the TD does, "day in and day out" that is of such a critical and technical nature?
Any examples of something tangible?
Any examples of a matter that is too complex for the president to comprehend?

It is kind of funny what people of today perceive to be essential. In the 1970s and earlier most high schools had a head football coach and maybe a paid assistant. Nowadays all the schools have offensive and defensive coordinators, electronic communication to spotters on the grandstand roof, etc. All on the taxpayers' nickle....but oh so essential.


Sometimes the Technical Director mows the grass, but only if the E.D. says it's okay, otherwise, it's off with his head

Bill, AMA 4720

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 2:21:29 PM   
The Toolman


 

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 2:27:05 PM   
JUGFLIER


 

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Status: offline 		I voted India. Smetimes i think it would be better if no one understood what they said, or in this case wrote.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 2:34:57 PM   
gboulton



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Status: offline 		I really am curious what the TD does for the AMA. Certainly, there are other definitions of "technology" than I happen to think of when I see the word, but from MY observation:

The AMA's website is horridly designed, poorly maintained, and legacy "technology" at best.

The AMA's "billing"...that is, the handling of dues payments via charge cards etc, is so far behind the times as to be downright problematic.

The AMA is consistently and regularly behind the modeling community on the understanding, use, or reporting of various technological advances, issues, or problems within the hobby.

The AMA has repeatedly been either unable or unwilling to make efficient (or in some cases ANY) use of the technology at hand to communicate with and best serve its membership. Indeed, this thread and a few others exist specifically because the officer one would presume to be responsible for doing so has VILIFIED the very members who DO make regular and efficient use of it.

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Now, as I say, these are the things that I think of when I think of "use of technology". Websites, computerized systems, electronic equipment int he hobby, etc. It's entirely possible that the job description for the TD within the AMA is different, or addresses a different type of "technology".

Sure would like to know, however.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 2:39:08 PM   
mscic-RCU



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Status: offline 		I too want to know what the TD does.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 4:53:44 PM   
combatpigg



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Status: online 		The other question is when was the job created? What was the reasoning? Does the reason for why the job was created still exist? I have the same questions about the business reps down at the union hall. They are all excellent hand shakers and decal passer-outers, but it is hard to put a finger on anything solid that they actually do on a consistant basis..

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 5:36:40 PM   
KidEpoxy



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Status: online 		Maybe the TD figures out technical stuff,
like developing the AMA method/procedure to verify PPPs are only flying at 60mph.
That seems like a technical thing, somebody's got to figure out the official method, why not have the TD do it.

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RE: Tech Director......or NOT? - 4/4/2008 5:40:28 PM   
Bob Mitchell


 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: combatpigg

The other question is when was the job created? What was the reasoning? Does the reason for why the job was created still exist? I have the same questions about the business reps down at the union hall. They are all excellent hand shakers and decal passer-outers, but it is hard to put a finger on anything solid that they actually do on a consistant basis..


If one doesn't know when or why the position was created, nor what the person who occupies the position actually does, how can one conclude one way or the other whether the position is necessary? On what basis should someone choose an option in the poll? Because they don't like something the guy said or should it be based on facts about the position?

Bob
AMA 903015

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