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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Gro... - 8/11/2008 7:17:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		At a miniimum, I was planning to make the horizontal pieces of the frame out of brass sheet and the front harp out of ply or laminated wood veneer. This gives a rigid push-pull framework as well as a wide gluing surface to attach the canopy and solder the hardpoints for the sliding guides. I hadn't planned to add the rear part of the frame, but it's worth considering to add some more lateral stability and eliminate some potential for twisting. After building up a fiberglass external frame on my 1/8, I may not do that again. I think it looks too "thick" relative to the 1:1. I may build the external framwork up with primer or the like. Would be great to at least have a template for that to work from.

Tom

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Gro... - 8/11/2008 7:36:32 PM   
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I was wondering if it wouldn't be beneficial to make the canopy similar to the full size in having a sliding framework to which the canopy attaches. I think it would be easier to get a good, solid sliding mechanism attached to a built up frame rather than trying to attach it to the plastic canopy. Plus, it would look more accurate when it was all said and done. What do guys you think?



I like this idea very much Chad, though I must admit I am a bit worried if it can be done without looking overly big.
It won't be easy to create the sliding framework at 1/6 scale while still being strong and small enough.

Cheers,


You could be right Danny and this is something I have considered as well. I'm thinking of trying to make the front and rear "bows" out of laminations of 1/64" plywood around a form. As with everything else it will need to be prototyped and perfected I'm sure. Of course, there is always the chance that I am "over engineering" things which is why I like to have the group's input. Thanks!

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Gr... - 8/11/2008 7:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		hi to everybody, you excuses for my absence, I was in vacations. I have seen some big novelties.' you are extraordinary. hi GIANLUCA. PS. Chad you have received my mail.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Gro... - 8/11/2008 9:21:43 PM   
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Status: online 		I too like the idea of an actual frame. Does anyone know the dimensions of the rail guide and rollers?

Scott

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/11/2008 9:41:56 PM   
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Gents,

Just to be sure I have the right orders for the horns, this is what I have until now, please let me know if I missed someone:

Eric (Riddle4U) - 1 elevator
Richard (rwright142) - 1 elevator
Chad (Chad Veich) - 1 elevator
Gene (GRH_70) - 1 elevator
Rustypep (Rusty) - 2 elevator
Sam (Daddysam) - 2 elevator
Scott (saramos) - 1 elevator, 1 rudder.

Cheers,



If it's not too late, I'll take 2 rudder and 2 elevator setups......

How do you want to be paid?

Unbelievably great stuff guys....... I can't wait to start mine!

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/11/2008 10:38:56 PM   
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Status: online 		Finally got a couple of my friends over to get the lathe/mill set on it's new home. If all goes as planned, I'll be heading out to Palm Springs for a HOT date with an F4U-1 with the proper wheels. It should be about 110 there this weekend. Now I'm off to visit the local metal shop.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/11/2008 11:20:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Saramos,

I assume you are talking about the Palms Springs Air Museum. Their F4U has the korean style hub.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/12/2008 2:14:03 AM   
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Status: online 		Well, how do ya like that! I came across a photo that showed the plane with the early style wheels. Must have changed them out since then.

This is disappointing news. I was going to go out there to photograph in as much detail as I could of those wheels. I will still contact the museum to verify which type of wheels they have. If anyone has more photos, or access to a Corsair with the older style wheels, please let me know. Does anyone know if those wheels were used on any other aircraft?

Scott


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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/12/2008 6:06:26 AM   
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Well, how do ya like that! I came across a photo that showed the plane with the early style wheels. Must have changed them out since then.

This is disappointing news. I was going to go out there to photograph in as much detail as I could of those wheels. I will still contact the museum to verify which type of wheels they have. If anyone has more photos, or access to a Corsair with the older style wheels, please let me know. Does anyone know if those wheels were used on any other aircraft?

Scott



Both the Seattle FG-1D and the Pensacola F4U-1D have the older style wheels. I have many photos already. I can get as many shots of these as needed.

Tom

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/12/2008 7:07:46 AM   
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Status: online 		Here's a link to a photo of the old style wheel at a crash site in the north San Francisco Bay area. This starts to reveal some of the internal detail. Note the square lugs on some of the spokes. My guess is that they are the sprues where the molten metal was poured into the mold. They were probably cut flush with the outer rim rather than being completely removed. Seems that most the restorations have them removed, or are they new molds with a different sprue setup?

Oops, forgot to add the link:
http://picasaweb.google.com/TamRanger/TamCorsairs/photo#5119610707441676146


Tom, I'm interested in any close up photos of both the front and back, from various angles so I can best figure out the proper shape.

Thanks

Scott


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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/12/2008 4:44:39 PM   
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Well, how do ya like that! I came across a photo that showed the plane with the early style wheels. Must have changed them out since then.

This is disappointing news. I was going to go out there to photograph in as much detail as I could of those wheels. I will still contact the museum to verify which type of wheels they have. If anyone has more photos, or access to a Corsair with the older style wheels, please let me know. Does anyone know if those wheels were used on any other aircraft?

Scott




Sorry for ruining your fun

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Gr... - 8/12/2008 5:57:14 PM   
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Status: online 		Saramos,
do you mean the stiffeners inside the wheel?

at any rate, there may be a reason everyone is going to the later style wheel. from time to time information is acquired that points out a deficiency in the older style requiring upgrades to newer parts.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/13/2008 7:32:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Regarding post #660, Chad..just what I wanted to do to make the "Bird cage". I refer to the partial "dummy fuselage" and frame. Great work as always. -Eric

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair Grou... - 8/13/2008 7:40:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Remklep ..post #664. Thank you so much. I loved the concept as I proposed it. YOU made it happen, and great job! Richard Wright has the master information for all of us. Mine has not changed. I'll certainly send you funds in a manor easiest for both of us.

Question: what is the width of the arms (between), such that I can use standard ball link here? It probably is not standard. Could you include the link in your pricing with a full controll rod? I think it all must be designed together, one way or another. Thank you Danny!

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