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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/9/2008 6:18:09 AM   
saramos



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Status: offline 		My idea for a thin walled cockpit is to frame up and skin/plank as usual. Then, before glassing, cover the section of the cockpit with a couple of layers of carbon cloth, extending a couple of inches forward and aft of the cockpit area, then remove all the wood structure from the inside, leaving only a carbon shell in the cockpit area, ready for detailing. I could cover the exact area I want to remove with plastic film to act as a parting material when I remove the wood structure. It would also give a smooth finish to the inside too. I might run a couple of carbon rod stringers if it looks like it needs more strength.

Here's a progress photo in the first of my real attempt at the front face of the wheel hub.

Scott

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/9/2008 6:22:38 AM   
saramos



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Status: offline 		Jeff, I really like the way that Zero interior cockpit wall looks.

Scott

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/9/2008 9:12:50 PM   
jerrymu1



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Status: offline 		Hi all; I am just reentering the R/C hobby, and after reading all of the posts on this thread, I couldn't resist joining in this build.

I am very impressed with the talent, attention to detail, and the quality of the work you all have and are demonstrating. I look forward to contributing if there is ever an opportunity that matches my capability. I have ordered the tail kit from Chad and have been reviewing the drawings. Everything looks first class!

Jerry Murphy

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/9/2008 10:28:53 PM   
jmodguy


 

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ORIGINAL: saramos

Jeff, I really like the way that Zero interior cockpit wall looks.

Scott


Thanks! I'm using a Tamiya 1/32 A6M5 for reference. I had to redo all the formers from the rear of the wing forward... The Ziroli cowl is horribly wrong so I'm also trying to blue foam one of those. You know anyone that wants a Ziroli Zero cowl?
The Zero is getting a G-62 with a torquemaster reduction and a 25.5" solo 3 bladed prop and electronic ignition. Runs very nice....

Jeff

PS Nice looking wheel hubs... Will yoube able to scale those up and or down?

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/10/2008 2:02:18 AM   
rwright142



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ORIGINAL: saramos
My idea for a thin walled cockpit is to frame up and skin/plank as usual. Then, before glassing, cover the section of the cockpit with a couple of layers of carbon cloth, extending a couple of inches forward and aft of the cockpit area, then remove all the wood structure from the inside, leaving only a carbon shell in the cockpit area, ready for detailing. I could cover the exact area I want to remove with plastic film to act as a parting material when I remove the wood structure. It would also give a smooth finish to the inside too. I might run a couple of carbon rod stringers if it looks like it needs more strength.

Here's a progress photo in the first of my real attempt at the front face of the wheel hub.

Scott

Excellent!

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/10/2008 2:03:29 AM   
rwright142



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Hi all; I am just reentering the R/C hobby, and after reading all of the posts on this thread, I couldn't resist joining in this build.

I am very impressed with the talent, attention to detail, and the quality of the work you all have and are demonstrating. I look forward to contributing if there is ever an opportunity that matches my capability. I have ordered the tail kit from Chad and have been reviewing the drawings. Everything looks first class!

Jerry Murphy

Welcome aboard Jerry, the more the merrier! Definitely add your input because we are all learning together.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/12/2008 2:47:06 PM   
Chad Veich



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ORIGINAL: jerrymu1
Hi all; I am just reentering the R/C hobby, and after reading all of the posts on this thread, I couldn't resist joining in this build.


Welcome aboard Jerry, glad to have you. From our emails it sounds as if you have already built at least one Corsair. How about some background? Pictures? We are a nosy bunch, well, at least I am.

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I would want to be moved up on the list for completed parts and plans since my latest project is now in primer.


Check you inbox Rusty, PM sent.

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ORIGINAL: rustypep
Anybody have any further thoughts on the retracts?


Please see the quick exchange that Darrell (Sierra Precision) and I had on the KMP Corsair thread in the Warbirds Forum. I will try and get Darrell to drop in on this thread and maybe we can generate some discussion.

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ORIGINAL: SMUGator

I haven't forgotten about the sliding cockpit prototype. We have the big charity bike ride this coming weekend. After that, life should get somewhat back to normal. Got Chris successfully married last weekend, so hopefully his honeymoon cruise isn't getting too messed up by the hurricanes.

Tom


Tom, I will try and get the test canopy in the mail to you by Monday morning.

Thanks everyone and keep moving forward. I will have pics of my fuselage jig and the start of my full fuse build in the next day or two.


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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair ... - 9/12/2008 3:00:17 PM   
Chad Veich



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Status: offline 		Here is the short conversation alluded to above. I've invited Darrell to drop in here if he has some time.


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ORIGINAL: Chad Veich
Any chance you could be convinced to make up some 1/6 scale Corsair gear to include the scissor and the shrink bar per the full scale? I know of at least a dozen guys who would be interested.



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ORIGINAL: BigRetracts-RCU

Chad,

As long as the shrink bar does not have to pull on the oleo it could be done.
If we also have to have the scale down locks, you would be looking at doing
a much larger run or a much higher cost per unit. I have the design, but it would
almost cost as much as the Comp-ARF would. You save a few dollars on the
material costs, but the labor to make them is almost the same.

So, lets decide what we want to pay for and how many to make and I can take a look
at a batch.

Darrell

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair ... - 9/12/2008 3:10:02 PM   
Remklep



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Status: offline 		Hey guys,

I'm back from vacation and am working on the elevator and rudder control horns again.
The elevator horns are almost all done, next are the rudder horns.

Unfortunately my flying-schedule is so tight that I only have 4 more days of free time this month (yep the planning department fracked me good), so hang in there.

Cheers,

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/12/2008 7:42:25 PM   
jerrymu1



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Status: offline 		In response to Chad's note, I have a BT Corsair that I just started; will probably put it in storage. I have been working on a Series of 1/48 Corsairs; my intent is to develop kit mods for a complete line from the first XF4U-1 through the F4U-5N and AU-1. As all of you know, the only changes, with the exception of the wing air inlets and the fin/sub-rudder on the F2G, are related to fuselage components. So, with a good wing and empenage design, about 14 different models of the Corsair can be produced.

I am one of those nuts who buys everything I can find about the subject I am working on; I just received the "Erection & Maintenance Handbook" for the Vought Aircraft F2G-1 and F2G-2. To my surprise I open it and immediately learn something new: Propeller size for the F2G-1 is 14' and for the F2G-2 is 13' 7". I would have bet hard money that they were all 14'.

In addition to the Corsair, I am working on one of my other favorites; the BT-13/15. I purchased the erection and maintenance manual on that one as well as six rolls of microfilm containing all of the manufacturing drawings. I used to own a "Vibrator" and yet I still keep learning more about the design almost daily.

Finally, my other two favorites are the Cessna T-50 "Bobcat" and the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep."

Sorry if I have provided more information than you may be interested in.

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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/12/2008 9:27:36 PM   
Remklep



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ORIGINAL: jerrymu1

In response to Chad's note, I have a BT Corsair that I just started; will probably put it in storage. I have been working on a Series of 1/48 Corsairs; my intent is to develop kit mods for a complete line from the first XF4U-1 through the F4U-5N and AU-1. As all of you know, the only changes, with the exception of the wing air inlets and the fin/sub-rudder on the F2G, are related to fuselage components. So, with a good wing and empenage design, about 14 different models of the Corsair can be produced.

I am one of those nuts who buys everything I can find about the subject I am working on; I just received the "Erection & Maintenance Handbook" for the Vought Aircraft F2G-1 and F2G-2. To my surprise I open it and immediately learn something new: Propeller size for the F2G-1 is 14' and for the F2G-2 is 13' 7". I would have bet hard money that they were all 14'.

In addition to the Corsair, I am working on one of my other favorites; the BT-13/15. I purchased the erection and maintenance manual on that one as well as six rolls of microfilm containing all of the manufacturing drawings. I used to own a "Vibrator" and yet I still keep learning more about the design almost daily.

Finally, my other two favorites are the Cessna T-50 "Bobcat" and the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep."

Sorry if I have provided more information than you may be interested in.


Hi jerrymu1,

Also from me welcome to the build.
I too put a BT Corsair on hold for this project.

That erection and "Maintanance Handbook" you just got , is that the book with all the manufacturing drawings insideß
I am going to order the book with all the drawings inside probably from eflightmanuals soon, as they have lowered their prices 35-50%, not sure if the book I want is lowered too, if I remember correctly it was kinda pricy...

You will find that when it comes to the Corsair, we can never have enough information, although most of us are building the F4U-1A and D, all info is very welcome.

Cheers,


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RE: 1/6 Scale F4U Corsair G... - 9/12/2008 9:44:40 PM   
jerrymu1



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ORIGINAL: Remklep


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ORIGINAL: jerrymu1

In response to Chad's note, I have a BT Corsair that I just started; will probably put it in storage. I have been working on a Series of 1/48 Corsairs; my intent is to develop kit mods for a complete line from the first XF4U-1 through the F4U-5N and AU-1. As all of you know, the only changes, with the exception of the wing air inlets and the fin/sub-rudder on the F2G, are related to fuselage components. So, with a good wing and empenage design, about 14 different models of the Corsair can be produced.

I am one of those nuts who buys everything I can find about the subject I am working on; I just received the "Erection & Maintenance Handbook" for the Vought Aircraft F2G-1 and F2G-2. To my surprise I open it and immediately learn something new: Propeller size for the F2G-1 is 14' and for the F2G-2 is 13' 7". I would have bet hard money that they were all 14'.

In addition to the Corsair, I am working on one of my other favorites; the BT-13/15. I purchased the erection and maintenance manual on that one as well as six rolls of microfilm containing all of the manufacturing drawings. I used to own a "Vibrator" and yet I still keep learning more about the design almost daily.

Finally, my other two favorites are the Cessna T-50 "Bobcat" and the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep."

Sorry if I have provided more information than you may be interested in.


Hi jerrymu1,

Also from me welcome to the build.
I too put a BT Corsair on hold for this project.

That erection and "Maintanance Handbook" you just got , is that the book with all the manufacturing drawings insideß
I am going to order the book with all the drawings inside probably from eflightmanuals soon, as they have lowered their prices 35-50%, not sure if the book I want is lowered too, if I remember correctly it was kinda pricy...

You will find that when it comes to the Corsair, we can never have enough information, although most of us are building the F4U-1A and D, all info is very welcome.

Cheers,


No, the book I bought doesn't have much in the way manufacturing drawings. It contains only illustrations that are helpful to the maintenance crew that is assembling and maintaining the a/c.

I haven/t seen the book you are referencing; I purchase that type of material from the Smithsonian archives.

Hope this is helpful.

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