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Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/13/2008 5:44:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, here we go again, same story different heli. I am hoping this thread will serve the same purpose as the King V2 tuner thread, to be informative and a place for everybody to share great ideas about how-to's and upgrades for these killer birds. I am hoping to keep this thread going so all participation is welcome but for everybodies sake, please use good manners when participating.

A little about where I hope to go here, I know the shark and its bretheren have a couple of areas of concern out of the box and with parts availability with the latter being the most important. I think anyone can just replace parts with parts that are no better, but want I want to do here is explore what parts interchange and what upgrades work. With that said, lets all go wreck our sharks so we can find out what kind of stuff we can make work, lol.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/14/2008 6:12:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, I have received a couple of emails asking what the eagle is, so here are some pics and a couple of differences that I have found.
The eagle comes with a much better canopy, it is fiberglass and usually not broken, lol. It also comes with an aluminum carry case which is cool, but as far as everything else it is pretty much a shark with different color cnc. It is not made or marketed by art tech but has the art tech hh gyro and art tech radio/rec. on it as well. It runs the same (as far as I can see) brushless system and flies exactly the same but the biggies is it the price is around $50 bucks less than a shark which makes it a pretty good deal and since parts are pretty much interchangeable you should not have any worries when the inevitable pays you a visit.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/14/2008 3:48:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice job, Betapilot. I just wanted to start a list right here of the helicopters that we've found that share this same "lineage", so as to avoid confusion that is popping up on some other threads on rcuniverse. I think you're cool with that, so here goes...

I think a good place to start is to list the kits that the helis in this family are based on. We know that at least one source of the kits is distributing under the Hone name, so I'll reference Hone's naming scheme when I get to the RTF's, simply to have a definitive way to reference them and try to keep it clear for readers. The Hone website lists six models, HF-001, HF-002, HF-003, HF-004, HF-005 and HF-006. At a later date, I'll try to do some simple groupings so you can know what is common and what is different across them all. Here is the Hone website that lists the six kits, go there for more info: www.china-rc-model.com

Now, to list the RTF versions of these kits that are being sold so far:

- The Art-Tech Shark 450. Sold by Art-Tech only as an RTF, this is simply Art-Tech's RTF build of the HF-006 airframe kit.

- The Eagle King, mentioned by Betapilot above. This is simply an RTF build of the HF-001 airframe kit.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 5:28:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the hone looks like a nice model, I will have to pick one up!! I just got the shark 450 cf helicopter from ultimaterchobby on the web, it was $340 shipped so I thought that was a good deal. I think once I wreck my shark which I know will happen, I can take the electronics out and put them in a hone arf!

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:06:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good deal, Memphis. You'll enjoy it, it's a very nice bird! I'm currently flying the Hone HF-003 that I built, and am going to get either a -006 or -001 for either a backup or a next bird to build, I can't decide.

Some other people may try to tell you that the Hone HF-006 kit isn't a true "Shark 450", and they're right, sort of. The "Shark" per se only comes as an RTF from Art-Tech. The kits are all distributed as a different name, like Hone HF-006's. You may find that certain retailers slap the Shark name on it, no harm done. Hone, Shark, it's all the same thing, call it what you will, it doesn't matter. What does matter, we all have a vested interest in the success of the underlying design, what Betapilot and I call the "narrow-frame" heli. The T-rex and its clones share a "wide-frame" design.

Happy flying! Post some pics!

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:08:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I flew the eagle which is basically the hone 001 and it flies great. I upgraded tow 001''s with the danlion motor and esc for a couple of customers and they are giving the birds awesome reviews. I am going to be working up a frankenstein based off of these chassis'' and it ought to be a pretty good flyer, it is amazing what happens to a shark when you give it some power to play with. I am not too happy with the stock set-up, it seems a little weak in the knees for me, a good esc with a clean bec makes a bunch of difference in how crisp the servos are.

Look on your shark and tell me what your aileron and elevator servos are. Are they 90''s or 100''s and do they fit well at the top port side of teh heli, I have not seen one yet that the servo fits flush, but the 90 fits in there perfect but is supposedly only used for the tail since the gyro is hh.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:13:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, Beta. So that separate BEC on my Hobbywing 30A ESC is contributing to the crisp servo response I''m seeing? Sweet...

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:13:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I should have the list up soon, I have the arf 006 and the 001 listed and the eagle king listed but am still working on getting all of the parts listed. Like I said, I will be concentrating on upgrades more than stock parts but will definitely be keeping a supply of the proprietary parts in both colors. I think it would be cool if they would do something different like orange or a goodlooking bright green cnc, lol. I will certainly be keeping some killer canopies for the shark owners, lol, demo knows that story, lol.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:16:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		It should, it really cleans them up. You really notice it on something like a king that has been running the esky b/l set-up and then going to something like the danlion or the hobbywing, it is incredible. Did you get your pinion straightened out, what did you end up going with?

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:23:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 11 tooth pinion will be perfect with that Danlions KA-400H, like you said. I couldn''t do it tonite, had to do my friggin'' taxes, I''m a procrastinator!

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 6:53:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Always file an extension, lol

I have run the 13t but did not like it as much as the 11t so I have stuck with the 11t.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/15/2008 11:47:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I want to welcome Memphistn to the club, he is a new shark owner and will hopefully be joining us for some good discussions.

I want to make something clear here, ANYONE is welcome here, even if you do not own a heli you are welcome to participate and interact here on our thread. Just cause I do not own a corvette does not mean I do not share the interest with people and same goes with helis. If you own a trex and want to talk about it, bring it on, you never know when a trex part may just work and be the best part for the job and the interaction and compilation of information is how we come up with solutions to our problems. I know I speak for everyone that will ever visit one of my threads when I say all are welcome and none will be condescended in here.

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/23/2008 11:16:15 AM   
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all are welcome

..are you sure?

Rusty, the Shark is flying well. I'm running a 12T on it now and had to dial down the power a bit in S2 mode cuz it was shaking while doing tail slides. I think the reason I still can't get it locked in like it was before is due to the tail arm not being correct. I've still got the stock arm with the micro heli tail box.. Which microheli or hdx tail arm is the correct one dude?

Memphistn, Welcome! If you are ever in Johnson City area, look me up.

Steve

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RE: Shark/Hone/Eagle tuner shop - 4/24/2008 1:35:01 AM