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HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 3:57:26 PM   
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Just got word from Tank Zone that the HL Sherman will most likely be the same old M4 105 How version [:''[:''(] HOWEVER, Tank Zone is already gearing up and making V V SS conversions for it that will also work on the Tam Sherman. I wrote back telling Kin that if they were to put that conversion kit on the market today, they could not stock enough to meet the demand. There are already enough conversion to other Sherman tanks that have the wrong suspension because there isn''t anything available.

Also, and it may be of some value. I sent HL an email expressing my disssappintment at another $#@% Sherman 105, and the market is flooded with a tank that was not really used much other than by the Marines. I wrote that the market is wide open to US and British armor, V V SS Sherman(s), M-10/36 TD, Comet, Crusader mk IV, Matilda, and Russian T-34/76 ot BT series.
It may do some good if we all wrote with the same idea. I told them that if they made a couple of these models, they''d have to expand the workshop and put on some new people.
Something to consider..
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RE: HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 4:07:36 PM   
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Wow, Hen Long''s M4 will be the 105mm version? What a coincidence...

How much you wanna bet they''ll....update their Panther in the near future too...

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 4:16:05 PM   
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Yeah ... and Heng Long doesn''t copy Tamiya at all? Right.

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 4:39:45 PM   
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"same old M4 105 How version" [BAD WORD]

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 9:45:48 PM   
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I didn''t know HL was even working on a Sherman. Any other sources to back this up?

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/14/2008 10:14:21 PM   
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I heard about it, but assumed it was rumor. heck i didn''t realize the panzer 4 was out for the longest time till a picture of one was out and i noted the road wheels were different.


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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 3:41:36 AM   
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Wow just realized this area was here...LOL

So has anyone actually confirmed this Malicious rumor of an HL made Sherman. PLEASE tell me yes..please, please, please! I bought an HL Bulldog and then realized that the Bulldog never saw combat in WWII, and I personally dont like the looks of the Pershing.

HL could make a killing if the would just produce more allied armor. The Germans have the market cornered for some reason...lol.


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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 4:15:11 AM   
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I don''t really want to comment on something coming from Tankzone, they''re basically crooks with a retail front (300% markups etc). This HL Sherman rumour has bounced to and fro for a while, whilst no firm word exists.



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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 4:18:18 AM   
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And he kicks me in the JIMMY.......

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 8:33:40 AM   
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Well i know if one dose come out that i will buy at least 2 super versions.


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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 12:20:00 PM   
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quote:

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HL could make a killing if the would just produce more allied armor. The Germans have the market cornered for some reason...lol.


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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 11:21:39 PM   
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Just tell us where to send the hatemail , or more polite words to the effect that "you are making a big mistake if you decide to clone the Tamiya Sherman". It puzzles me that they would even attempt the more complex HVSS over the VVSS.

The 105mm M4 was a strange goose. I suppose to the layman it appears to be a severely upgunned tank but once you delve into a little research, it is basically mobile arty and is disappointing in that it was not a tank battler.

I'd be more happy if HL decided on an M4 dozer, "Calliope" or even this would be preferable:
At least I'd have something to build to my taste.

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ORIGINAL: pattoncommander
It may do some good if we all wrote with the same idea. I told them that if they made a couple of these models, they'd have to expand the workshop and put on some new people.
Something to consider..



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RE: HL Sherman - 4/16/2008 11:48:30 PM   
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Henglong@henglongtoys.net is an address to comment. I beleive if more of us wrote, regardless of how hard headed a boss might be, business expansion, sales and income all talk.
The M-4 105 was designed as a infantry support tank ie; American Sturmgeschütz. They were not issued en masse but as needed, and in late WW IIm Tank Battalions got them one to a company. (17 Shermans, 3 plats of 5, 2 Hq tanks and the 105) Marines made more use of them and retrofitted many as the flame version POA-CWS-HS. This had a flame gun where the gunners telescope would normally be as a smaller tube almost as long as the 105 How itself. It was supposed to be very good and used a lot in Korea. I never saw but a couple and have yet to find any substantial info on the range, napalm supply and functioning.

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/17/2008 12:26:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: googlydoogly

Wow, Hen Long's M4 will be the 105mm version? What a coincidence...

How much you wanna bet they'll....update their Panther in the near future too...


I wish they would - I wont touch the pantiger, and I just cant afford a tamiya

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RE: HL Sherman - 4/20/2008 7:47:59 PM   
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If we did make a concerted effort to write en masse to the Heng Long product manager or the CEO, what would we tell them to produce? Which M4 variant? We may just have to vote on this presuming we have some impact on the matter...

Regarding production of the VVSS in 1/16 form, what kind of pitfalls could one expect? I mean how, in your opinion, could HL screw it up? I just imagine the production of a downsized version of what is seen on the 1/6 M5 Stuart from Motorworks, sprung with coil springs and articulated in much the same way.

I recall seeing someone by the name of Tiff Williams who had made a tank with custom VVSS on a 1/16 battle site. Below are some of the pics from Fragarmor.org. If this so-called HL Sherman turns out to be a HVSS Tamiya clone, I might just have to follow in this fellow's footsteps.

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