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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/11/2008 3:27:07 PM

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Too bad that they didn't solve the sprocket problem.

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Sadly, nope.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/12/2008 6:54:39 AM

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Maybe the kit I got was from an earlier batch? I dunno. But people have said that Tamiya fixed the sprockets/tracks issue in their Jagdpanther.

More updates:

Finished the rear of the hull. I also added a little bit of texturing and weld lines.

I also scratched-built from spare PE parts some...I don't know what these are supposed to be, but I've seen a lot of them in 1/35 Panther models...maybe they're poison gas detector mounts?

Now for some hull details. First, here's a scratch-built front mudguards braces.

Tool details:

Here's the Schumo load cable holder. The Tamiya kit part is way underscaled, plus it's positioned in a wrong way.

Here's the upper hull details. You can see the resin cast of the Antenna Base, PE engine grills, and spare track holders from Schumo. The spare track holders from the IMPACT set are too thin, rendering them virtually useless.

The pins that came with the track holders DOES NOT FIT! I had to make my own out of a spare aerial antenna.

Here are the small lifting hooks.

I also added some thick weld seam on the rear tow cable holders. Not only is it necessary, but they also act as supports for the fragile IMPACT parts.

Here's a cute pic. A 1/16th Panther, and a 1/144 Panther.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/12/2008 4:33:52 PM

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Too bad that they didn't solve the sprocket problem.

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Sadly, nope.

But they have fixed the “sprocket” problem. My Panther kit was produced right on the cusp of when they where changing over to the new parts. Sadly mine still had the old ones though. The fix was very simple. I just called Tamiya US and they sent me new parts without question and they arrived in three days at no charge! Now the tank runs perfectly on the stock tracks.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/13/2008 5:13:20 AM

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Those PE parts really make the difference.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 1:52:45 AM

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Here's a few more updates. Added more details on the turret, including weld lines.

Added some chains.

Up next, priming the turret.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 2:35:24 AM

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The chains look great! Where do they come from?

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 3:40:57 AM

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I got them from Michael's. Go to the jewelry-making section, and ask for "Findings" fashion chains.

I just primed the turret. I realized that the surfaces of the Panther is very smooth. The only part that has some defined texturing was the commander's cupola. I know that real Panthers don't have the cast-iron look like the surface of a T-34, but it just looks too toyish without any texture, so I added a little bit.

I better decide what camo job I should do soon.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 4:01:50 AM

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looks very good googlydoogly,

Your much farther ahead of me on my KT, but I will catch up some day,

welds look great, what did you use? I'm stuck at deciding what camo to do also, I need to just pick one and get done with it.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 4:08:54 AM

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I agree about the texture, way too smooth. Thanks for the tip on the chain!

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 4:48:13 AM

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looks very good googlydoogly,

Your much farther ahead of me on my KT, but I will catch up some day, welds look great, what did you use? I'm stuck at deciding what camo to do also, I need to just pick one and get done with it.

Gary

I used Milliput putty. I did the welds by rolling the putty like playdoh until you have thin cylindrical shapes, then just stick it into the model. Then use a hobby knife to make the score marks. I love this putty.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/18/2008 5:14:05 AM

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looks very good googlydoogly,

Your much farther ahead of me on my KT, but I will catch up some day, welds look great, what did you use? I'm stuck at deciding what camo to do also, I need to just pick one and get done with it.

Gary

I used Milliput putty. I did the welds by rolling the putty like playdoh until you have thin cylindrical shapes, then just stick it into the model. Then use a hobby knife to make the score marks. I love this putty.

OK, that's what I used, mine is white and the green I haven't seen, when I did this to my Sherman I found that the putty would stick to my blade, so I would dip it in water first and that helped seal the putty edges to the surface of the hull. your looks great, man I need to get back to work on mine.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/21/2008 3:41:12 AM

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OK, that's what I used, mine is white and the green I haven't seen, when I did this to my Sherman I found that the putty would stick to my blade, so I would dip it in water first and that helped seal the putty edges to the surface of the hull. your looks great, man I need to get back to work on mine.

Yep, I cannot recommend Milliput highly enough. It's a life-saver.

And I can't wait to see your King Tiger when you finally paint it!

I started priming again, but I ran out of my gray primer, so I used red-oxide primer. THEN I realized I forgot to add a few details on the turret. :?

I added the gun depression stopper on the rear side of the mantlet on both sides.

I also forgot to add a third gas detection mounting panel on the rear side of the turret roof.

Hopefully, the texturing I did shows through.

Done!

For a brief period of time during the fall of 1944, The Germans built armor with only the red-oxide primer as the base coat, and the camo colors were painted directly onto the primer. I believe this was done during September-October 1944.

I was going to keep it and use the red-oxide primer, but eh. Since there's such a big unresolved debate among modellers and armor historians how this order was implemented, I decided not to use the red-oxide primer as the base coat. I believe Minichamps released a 1/35 Panther with this camo job in mind.

So...I decided to paint my panther in dark green base color instead. This was done to all heavy armor from November 1944 to early January 1945. So I'm hoping to base my Panther to a Panther built around November-January. Because in February 1945, I think that the AAMG ring on the cupola was deleted from the Panthers.

Here's the roadwheels painted.

And here's my Panther with her base coat applied.

And here's the muzzle break:

Minor **** about the IMPACT muzzle break. The main advantage of aftermarket metal muzzle breaks is that you don't have to spend time trying to smooth away the seam on a lot of two-piece, stock plastic muzzle breaks.

Guess what? IMPACT muzzle breaks still has a ugly seam running along the entire length of the muzzle break!!! Why???? Oh wells.

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RE: Tamiya Panther Build - 5/21/2008 4:04:05 AM

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PS: Any and all inflammatory PMs to me will be posted publicly.

luketeo just sent you a private message at 5/21/2008 3:58:45 AM:

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Tamiya Panther Build
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yes, you are right IMPACT muzzle brake is not up to your expectation, doing up
the seam line seems too tough for you

Oh....by the way, what can you say about Tamiya Panther's
1. tracks and sprocket problem
2. poor fitting of the upper hull onto the sprocket guide
3. loose barrel to mantlet fitting
4. wrong engine sound

ah.....never mind, it is always better to beat up on small aftermarket maker
than to beat up on Tamiya

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