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Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 11:33:43 AM   
AndersDK


 

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Last sunday I crashed my trainer beyond repair. It was my own fault due to too risky manuvering at too low altitude, with too little experience. It was my 7´th start, and I was otherwise progressing well.
I would like to proceed with a large trainer now with about 80 inch wingspan, and I have either TWM Frontier Senior og SIG Kadet Senior in thought.
Which one will you recommend? I have the car needed to transport an assembled 80 inch wing.


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Anders
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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 1:45:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		My experiences with the Kadet Sr. have been great. I simply love the plane and have been "off the trainer" for over two years. I still enjoy flying it. When most folks say that they've outgrown their trainer, this one can actually grow with you. Put a bigger engine on it, modify it a little or do whatever you want with it. Mine has a 91 4-stroke on it and again, it's the one that all my other planes are envious of.



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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:03:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can't go wrong with the Sig Senior . Great flying plane . I have a OS70 4-stroke on mine . I installed ailerons in the wings , which made it fly great .

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:13:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		It appears that you have reduced the dihedral also or do the 4-channel ARFs come that way?

I learned to fly with a Kadet Senorita and have entertained the thought of building another one with four channels, no dihdedral, and taildragger landing gear.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:21:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		This was build from the kit form . Not an ARF . So I took out some dihedral . so it has about 2-3 degrees. . The ARF still will come with the 10 degrees .

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:25:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know the Frontier but am quite intimate with most of the Kaydets. Consider this: the Kaydet Senior is arguably THE most successful trainer in the history of RC since the development of proportional control systems. By successful I mean actually enabling the owners to learn to fly.

Second thought: The Kaydet Senior has been in continuous uninterupted production since the first I think in the late sixties. You will be hardpressed to match that with any type airplane and there is a good reason for that.

I would never be without at least one Kaydet, the Quad Kaydet in my avitar I built in the early seventies.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:30:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		For what its worth the Kaydet ARF has about half the dihedral of what is used on the kit version without ailerons. There is no need or benefit to do a dihedral reduction with the ARF version that only comes with the ailerons.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 2:53:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I once sawed apart the wing halves of another trainer and reglued them back together with a lot less dihedral. To say that it totally transformed the plane would be an understatement. It's like I re-invented the Stik (Ugly, Sweet, Ultra, whatever).
It was that experiment that had me considering making a zero-dihedral taildragger Kadet. Maybe electric also so I can switch the motor off and see if I can thermal every once in a while.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 3:15:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: B.L.E.

I once sawed apart the wing halves of another trainer and reglued them back together with a lot less dihedral. To say that it totally transformed the plane would be an understatement. It's like I re-invented the Stik (Ugly, Sweet, Ultra, whatever).




You mean perhaps something like this I agree B.L.E. Kit bashing is a time honored tradition with modelers that is so much fun and we seem to be seening less and less of that.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 3:45:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks a lot,

for the fast answers.
I think that I will go for the Kadet Senior. The ARF version with lower dihedral angle and ailerons.

By the way, will a Sig Something Extra be too wild for a no. 2 plane? By taming it with exponential and lower elevator/rudder/aileron rates in the beginning?

Best Regards,
Anders

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 3:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Kadet Senior ARF and it is definitely worth the money. Really a first rate product. Transport isn't an issue on the ARF because the wing is a 2 piece unit. One note.......the ARF assembles tail heavy and not just a little. I literally have a lead lined firewall to balance the plane. In hindsight, I wish I had put a little bigger (heavier) engine than the O.S. 46fx just for the balance issues.

Good luck

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 4:01:21 PM   
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By the way, will a Sig Something Extra be too wild for a no. 2 plane? By taming it with exponential and lower elevator/rudder/aileron rates in the beginning?
Best Regards,
Anders




Without knowing you and the many individual varaibles my answer to the question is predicated upon your willingness to work with an instructor/mentor on the first flights with the SSE. If you are willing to do that then yes it can work fine.

John

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 7:05:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		John, how does the anhedral affect that Taxidancer? I thought about converting my trainer from dihedral to anhedral.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 7:42:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would imagine that the anhedral would make it fly like a low wing airplane that has the landing gear on the wrong side of the fusilage.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 9:25:52 PM   
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Status: online 		Got 4 flights on my Kadet Senior ARF just this morning. 10mph crosswind was quite fun, great flying airplane and no mods needed.
It did require a fair amount of lead weight in the nose with an OS 46AX.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/21/2008 10:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will back up on the kadtets. It seems like every night out at the feild after eight o'clock when the wind is zero, every body drags out the kadets and we shoots touch and goes all evening. Its relaxing after a day of hardcore aerobatic flying.

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RE: Sig Kadet Senior or TWM Super Frontier Senior? - 4/22/2008 1:09:09 AM