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HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:32:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone know anything about? or how to hook it up to a car to run HHO instead of gas? My family is tried of paying for the $3.50+ a gallon stuff (one of my bro's is paying over a $1,000 a month just in diesel for his truck)

If anyone knows anything about or electronics, we would appreciate the help.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:48:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		might as well go bio diesel or better yet convert to run on frenchfry oil....im paying $3.95 for premium and $4.40 for diesel. gas sucks

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:54:38 AM   
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might as well go bio diesel or better yet convert to run on frenchfry oil....im paying $3.95 for premium and $4.40 for diesel. gas sucks


Bio around here is $3.20 - $3.80 not worth buying it. Do you know what HHO is?

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:59:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		not sure what HHO is but i know the french fry oil thing is good. A few months ago someone on my local craigs list was trying to get peeps together to get vegiy oil. He said it shuold only cost like .75 a gallon after the chemicals in all. Maybe post a ad in craigs list and see if anyone localy is making it. And u could start buying from them.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:07:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		hho is about as useful as
a supercharger on a nitro

h-h-o
is not chemically possible
unless a completely new
chemical bond has been discovered

and it's beyond believe
that something like that
would not be in all the scientific journals

it's all snake oil
playing on peoples frustrations
with gas prices

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:45:34 AM   
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Status: online 		I'm not to sure about what hho is but iamnot, why do you make all of your replies in stanza form..?

I remember seeing how to make your own bio-fuel(french fri stuff) in your own home. It was on the show Trucks back when Stacy was hosting it. He said it smelled like french fries while he went down the road.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 5:19:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's been used a fuel additive, but it yields pathetic performance with a slight improvement in emissions quality. The most useful thing it's good for are lab demonstrations.

EDIT:

I didn't realize how much bs there was about HHO in the internet... talk to a chemist if you want more information, the "kits" you can buy are about as legitimate looking as free energy devices.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:05:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know about the vegi oil (my cousin dose that and you have to have a diesel which only one person in my family dose)

HHO (for those who don't know) is water (or H2O) and HHO is very explosive (we blow up a plastic jar up with it and the jar had a 1/2" tube on the top of it) You can run your cars/truck off of it, some people have made a welder/torch that runs HHO and pro's are using them. Then after you burn the HHO it turns back into water.

One guy went from NY to CA on about 22 gallons of water in his car that he modded to run on HHO.

So those of you who say HHO will not work, sorry but you're wrong.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 3:52:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		HHO electrolyzers have been around for a while now. I first remember seeing a video like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8 around 5 or 6 years ago. If it were efficient enough to replace fossil fuels, I'd have to think it would have happened by now. I find it difficult to believe that the energy consumed to electrolyze the water is conservative enough to make it a viable energy alternative - yet anyway. But it does look hopeful!

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:05:40 PM   
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HHO electrolyzers have been around for a while now. I first remember seeing a video like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8 around 5 or 6 years ago. If it were efficient enough to replace fossil fuels, I'd have to think it would have happened by now. I find it difficult to believe that the energy consumed to electrolyze the water is conservative enough to make it a viable energy alternative - yet anyway. But it does look hopeful!


From what I've heard from my Dad looking this up, that splitting the water into H and O has been around longer then Gas. I still don't see why no one it doing this.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:18:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RCtruckRacer

HHO electrolyzers have been around for a while now. I first remember seeing a video like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8 around 5 or 6 years ago. If it were efficient enough to replace fossil fuels, I'd have to think it would have happened by now. I find it difficult to believe that the energy consumed to electrolyze the water is conservative enough to make it a viable energy alternative - yet anyway. But it does look hopeful!


Hydrogen is the future fuel, just wish it would get here already

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:26:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		hho is fake
plain and simple

it is chemically imposable to make a water molecule
h-h-o
the covalent bond will just not work like that

to do that you would have to come up with a totally new chemical bond

and that would be world wide news

not internet
"hey, it really works"
crap

but if you want to believe
have at it
spend what you want trying to convert

but don't be surprised
when it fails

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 4:54:19 PM   
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hho is fake
plain and simple

it is chemically imposable to make a water molecule
h-h-o
the covalent bond will just not work like that

to do that you would have to come up with a totally new chemical bond

and that would be world wide news

not internet
"hey, it really works"
crap

but if you want to believe
have at it
spend what you want trying to convert

but don't be surprised
when it fails


I have personally lit water on fire, all we did is take 4 strips of alum (about 1" x 3.5" and space them apart with zip-ties and wired them positive - negative - positive - negative stuck the alum strips in a jar of water and hooked a gel cell to it and you could see the H and O gas coming off the plates. and we even lit the gas bubbles. So I think that proves that HHO is real.

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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 5:11:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hydrogen fuel is real.

Maybe not the way the guy in the video is talking,

I got this toy rocket thats hydrogen powered,

You get this Citris acid salt stuff mix it in water, pour the water into this reservoir that sits below the rocket, inside the reservoir there is a probe that puts an electric charge into the water from 6 D cell batteries, and an ignitor inside the air space of the reservoir, you see little bubbles start rising to the surface, wait like 5 mins and push the ignitor and BOOM it ignigts the gas and rocket takes off.



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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 5:23:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JB COMP


quote:

ORIGINAL: iamnot

hho is fake
plain and simple

it is chemically imposable to make a water molecule
h-h-o
the covalent bond will just not work like that

to do that you would have to come up with a totally new chemical bond

and that would be world wide news

not internet
"hey, it really works"
crap

but if you want to believe
have at it
spend what you want trying to convert

but don't be surprised
when it fails


I have personally lit water on fire, all we did is take 4 strips of alum (about 1" x 3.5" and space them apart with zip-ties and wired them positive - negative - positive - negative stuck the alum strips in a jar of water and hooked a gel cell to it and you could see the H and O gas coming off the plates. and we even lit the gas bubbles. So I think that proves that HHO is real.



no, what you did was split the hydrogen from the oxygen

that is a known technology
hydrogen fuel cells are coming

oh, and
you did not burn water
you burnt the gases that resulted from, basically, destroying water


what the quacks that are promoting hho are claiming
is to have formed a new molecule

two totally and completely different things

one is real

the other

a total hoax



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RE: HHO gas - 4/25/2008 5:33:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: iamnot


quote:

ORIGINAL: JB COMP


quote:

ORIGINAL: iamnot

hho is fake
plain and simple

it is chemically imposable to make a water molecule
h-h-o
the covalent bond will just not work like that

to do that you would have to come up with a totally new chemical bond

and that would be world wide news

not internet
"hey, it really works"
crap

but if you want to believe
have at it
spend what you want trying to convert

but don't be surprised
when it fails


I have personally lit water on fire, all we did is take 4 strips of alum (about 1" x 3.5" and space them apart with zip-ties and wired them positive - negative - positive - negative stuck the alum strips in a jar of water and hooked a gel cell to it and you could see the H and O gas coming off the plates. and we even lit the gas bubbles. So I think that proves that HHO is real.



no, what you did was split the hydrogen from the oxygen

that is a known technology
hydrogen fuel cells are coming

oh, and
you did not burn water
you burnt the gases that resulted from, basically, destroying water


what the quacks that are promoting hho are claiming
is to have formed a new molecule

two totally and completely different things